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00:07 Okay. Mhm Yeah, I Hey folks, welcome, let me

00:41 this up a little bit. Testing. Can you hear me?

00:47 of low test casting, wow that's better. Okay, all

01:03 let's see. So there shouldn't be new information to anybody. I hope

01:09 , email. Uh So that's only in terms of being a little more

01:23 . So instead of the usual uh questions, this one is about 25

01:32 , you'll have 45 minutes. Um basically cover stuff since last, I

01:40 you can hear the 17th, 19th kind of only started a real

01:46 So uh basically chapter 134 and summer , whatever we cover on five on

01:54 . So Um so just know that have more time for this one

02:00 So uh of course the smart, work. Um the only difference there

02:07 you got something to do on but then two days later in Chapter

02:12 , which is not long, it's short, but I did it that

02:16 . So if you did have questions you at least have some time before

02:21 exam. Okay, so that's why put the due date on Wednesday for

02:26 . Um So again, exam is week from this friday, so I

02:35 have over a week yet until So but we'll start before that it

02:42 start viruses and this and this is one of those, I'll have the

02:52 uh set up for you. So the flip classes we'll we'll do a

02:57 of questions. Um too. that's not going to be on the

03:03 example. Okay. But just to you know, So we've got plenty

03:09 time, so likely um the the that ketchup day, we'll finish up

03:16 last bit of chapter five. That likely not be a an hour and

03:22 minutes class. Probably somewhere about 45 range. So anyway, so that's

03:27 coming up. So uh let's uh a brief recap. Um So we've

03:36 through, we haven't talked about this , but we'll go through that and

03:42 this in this today and maybe uh two? Uh short by comparison.

03:53 it only covers two topics. Uh films in those scores. Okay.

03:58 , well, we may or may get to some of that today.

04:02 see, but we've got plenty of . Um Alright, so we went

04:07 kind of uh alright, here's what need for growth. Right? So

04:14 kind of went down to the right? The C H O M

04:17 S. Okay. And then of , depending on the nutritional,

04:25 We need different forms of these Most of phosphate or phosphorous is a

04:34 , sulfurous sulfate content typically and so . But the kind of the one

04:38 the major dividing lines was a carbon C. 02 or something, a

04:42 more complex. Like a glucose or carbohydrates, or fat or what

04:48 Right? So you're distinction, So we looked at in terms of

04:54 , electrons right to remember us hetero and uh more manual for our

05:01 Right? We can eat carbohydrates and carbon from that. We can also

05:05 energy from that. Right? And from that as we'll see when we

05:10 into chapter two. Okay. So all depends on kind of the metabolic

05:15 and then we put those components together we make a media, right,

05:20 medium. And then uh we have types of growth media. We talked

05:24 uh complex divine. Right? We'll about a couple others today. And

05:31 and uh and ways to grow bacteria . So you can have can get

05:38 you want, so to speak. . And then uh so well today

05:45 get into uh growth dynamics. So growth, how fast can you

05:52 Uh quantitative them. And uh we'll a couple of problems. You're allowed

05:58 have a Hand held calculator. I care what type you just have to

06:04 able to do multiplication, division log base 10 function. That's pretty

06:10 . But there'll be a couple of . Maybe three at most have to

06:15 with that. But we'll go through today. There's nothing complicated. But

06:22 then it will end with this here of growth. So if we

06:33 Yeah, don't memorize anything. Um the um you know, actually the

06:43 you march your growth and you get get ages, right? They can

06:50 in terms of length and the former not as we'll talk about it.

06:55 uh that's the lag along station. read that face so I'm gonna talk

06:59 some of the variations of growth. this is an area here that if

07:05 a biotech major that's these are the of things you'll do actually we'll do

07:11 of these things as well. And so anyway, we'll take a

07:17 at that. So let's start with question. Okay. So it's kind

07:22 relates to this kind of relate to medium. And this question here,

07:29 . So you remember what is. . Um That's the key answering.

07:35 just a yes or no question. . So look at that gross medium

07:42 history and of course is amino So could a history in grow on

07:50 medium as is. Okay. All . Let's count down. Let me

08:28 that again. Who answered? I you to see you are correct.

08:35 , you're not correct. Alright there no C. Okay. Um Who

08:44 a Hey police 61 of you. you can have you know your 61

08:55 you answered. Yes. Okay. um Why tenant girl This video?

09:08 because that's right. So so number the history has to be supplied.

09:14 that's that's number one. The definition . This is a this is one

09:22 deficient in some sort of pathway can't in this case histamine or can't make

09:29 or whatever whatever the word is before control it can't make that. So

09:33 have to supply it's gonna grow. so knowing that then you look at

09:38 words medium and uh what's what's supplying history and potentially it's gonna be these

09:47 . Alright. Pepto beef extract, ? Complex nutrients. Let's think of

09:53 tone and beef extract. It's a about that flesh and bone. What's

10:01 to be in that? Everything amino , nucleotides, carbohydrates in different it's

10:08 gonna be there. So um certainly will be among those amino acids in

10:16 . Okay so yeah it will grow the complex meat. Now if you

10:24 it on this medium. Yes, minus that. Okay. In other

10:33 that would be a defined medium, , synthetic medium, minimal medium.

10:41 if you you could use that if just added which you can buy and

10:47 can buy history by itself and just that. You can do that.

10:54 you were if you were really testing examining the properties of this and how

11:02 could you know how much history would and that this and that that you

11:05 want to do that a minimal medium defined with history alone. So how

11:11 you control everything all the parameters? um But yeah so that's what we're

11:16 with. Castro that's what you got think about. How do I supply

11:20 nutrients. Okay so this question. so this isn't a quicker question.

11:28 um just focus on the components of media. Just bringing us into the

11:35 topic here. What would grow on medium Is something missing? It's something

11:45 think of the thinking. Six Right? six elements. Alright.

11:53 missing. Uh huh. Anybody else down mm hmm. Else it's not

12:13 , correct nitrogen. Okay so what grow on this? Oh there's your

12:20 . Right well couldn't grow on it the bacteria that are in this category

12:26 here they can actually take into and that. We'll talk about this later

12:33 the semester. And then that's that's nitrogen. Okay so this is the

12:39 of medium that's agriculture. This is example example of regiment culture. Okay

12:46 you formulate a growth medium with ingredients will allow for the growth of a

12:56 type. Certain okay um now there's we'll talk about selectively during a second

13:05 at me. It's a very subtle maybe between the two and all

13:12 You might you might argue that any is selective, right? Neutrino?

13:19 can be selective. It's not it's a second media and stand corrected.

13:24 I'm just saying you might argue idiots you can't grow everything we grow everything

13:32 that's able to be cultured. Certain can but not everything so well

13:38 No not quite. Okay so selective is where you are purposefully add a

13:46 component that you know will inhibit a particularly a certain class of bacteria.

13:53 common is and chemical agents that inhibit positives and inhibit gram negative. So

13:59 know and a and an antibiotic right any chemical that you know will inhibit

14:06 growth of certain types. So these all selected media. Okay. Enrichment

14:12 a little bit different to add a to the things you're trying to combine

14:19 components of the type of what we're growth of the type you're looking

14:26 Okay it would be right. You're adding something to inhibit chemical to inhibit

14:33 . You're just producing a media that will allow for the growth of a

14:37 select type of impact. Right? can adjust it right? But you're

14:43 to enrich for those types right? you try to look for one of

14:48 types. Okay one of these types . Okay use a nutrient auger.

14:58 would get in a handful of soil ? Because these are from the

15:04 You don't get all kinds of stuff out of plate and you may have

15:08 them fixers but you'd never probably find . Right so let's throw it on

15:14 medium instead. Okay and now only select few things are going to grow

15:22 that You enrich for their presence if will. Okay so it's kind of

15:28 little of a subtle distinction but that very 30 between the original culture and

15:32 can not selected. Right. Any about that? So um and so

15:41 talked about this before um Different types liquid and solid media, right?

15:47 um there's utilities for both. You use liquid cultures that you're trying to

15:53 large volumes of whatever microbe you're working because the amount of volume is

16:00 Right? Um And that's before. like if you want to get some

16:06 of molecule from yourself to grow them to get enough stuff, you can

16:10 with whether it's D. N. . Or uh plate. You

16:15 plates, let's call it a on plate. You would take something from

16:20 and transfer to a plate. All to get visible colony. So think

16:27 solid media gives you a way to . Um But this is a bowl

16:36 of the micro it's kind of But you know what's what's calling you

16:42 plate. You know that's that is representative of one type, right?

16:48 a cure column, right? So can some of that material, you

16:54 go back to liquid video or do , but you can now have to

16:58 it in your culture. And so is essential for that. Getting pure

17:04 . Look what could be a part the process. But ultimately you got

17:07 put on a plate to see. gives you a visual representation of something

17:11 can work with. You can look the microscope, right? But you

17:16 sell a pair of tweezers. You need that plate for that.

17:21 , so and the plate will tell Well, there are other things mixed

17:25 there. Okay. So you can of weed things out. Alright.

17:30 everything has kind of its own And so selected media and different uh

17:37 , chemicals in there that will inhibit classes. A lot of these

17:41 So, let me talk about this the context of selective and differential.

17:49 . So both of these together. . Yes, there can be media

17:54 medium that is just selective. But very often you combine two or

18:02 selective differential. So differential medium gives a uh difference in terms of some

18:11 of chemical property that the cell does doesn't have a lot of these selected

18:18 media were developed for water quality analysis what I'm gonna tell you now,

18:29 not gonna test you on but it to uh explain. It kind of

18:33 in terms of what's going on So, the water quality uh one

18:38 the things you're very concerned about is presence of by definition coliform is a

18:51 a short program, gram negative lactose . That's what coliform is. All

18:58 . So these are indicators of fecal of water. Find something like this

19:06 your water. That's what you're looking a waterfall. Right? And e

19:11 is Okay. As are some And so um of course you see

19:17 in your water quality analysis. That's red flag obviously. So all these

19:22 differential media can quantitatively qualitatively show this you. Okay. And this is

19:30 type of such selective differential media. basically we're looking for a gram native

19:37 this water quality. So you don't to deal with grand positive. So

19:41 put a chemical here that will inhibit as a selective part, differential part

19:47 let's put in lactose sugar to see you can ferment or not.

19:52 And these visualizations of different colors on plate are typically due to ph differences

20:00 ph indicators, alternative certain color, know, fermentation or acidic. So

20:06 was fermenting. It will show either color or some other type of

20:11 depending on the ph indicator. Uh an aunt from Atlanta's. You won't

20:15 a color change. That's really a of what these are about. But

20:18 metabolic property we're looking at. Um so with this particular medium this heck

20:31 and you can differentiate coliform. So a coliform. They show up as

20:38 . They may not be may not enough contrast there, but the yellow

20:42 . So these are kind of the colorless opaque. And these are more

20:47 the yellowish types here and yellowish ones the lactose fermenters. Okay. You

20:57 there. So uh these two salmonella shigella most interest for museums? Both

21:10 . Um they don't so they give these totals colonies. They go well

21:17 can I differentiate? Um It's the of a black color. So you

21:22 salmonella is only showing the black color that's due to production of H.

21:27 S. There's like sulfur compounds that convert to H. Two.

21:35 So you can differentiate between the So this is actually kind of

21:38 You can differentiate, enters producers. so anyway the point is these color

21:48 can tell you something about their metabolism ? Whether they have it or

21:53 And so it gives you a really of a quick qualitative result. Um

21:59 easy to interpret. Okay and the quality analysis you often have people that

22:03 working there don't have. So you something that will be easily interpreted.

22:10 , so this is just another So blood auger is one that's used

22:16 often in uh diagnostic purposes uh throat depending what you get. You can

22:25 can indicate strep throat uh the bacterium causes it. Uh And so reactions

22:31 blood are are used for that So especially with the group called

22:40 Okay, this encompasses and we'll talk this later this semester but streptococcus has

22:46 number of pathogens um strep throat. called fever, flesh eating disease?

22:57 cavities Alright, tooth cavities uh gastrointestinal and so a lot of them.

23:05 they historically that you can kind of the types on how they behave on

23:10 augur right? Some some groups some group a strep licenses these red blood

23:18 so it gets a clear zone, zone around them. Others kept different

23:23 . So you kind of differentiating that . So anyway, differential selective

23:28 Okay. Just on the tool you use you know depending on kind of

23:33 you're doing in this case, water analysis or diagnosis of something can

23:38 Okay. Um All right. Any about that in the next 15 20

23:47 on quantity of bacterial growth? Okay we'll go through kind of step by

23:56 . Do a couple of problems and I said it's not that complicated but

24:01 get through it. So this is kind of intro intro not a clicker

24:05 . Um so it's just a It's kind of it's not gonna shock

24:11 . I don't think that just kind to show you, you know double

24:16 time and how that can be a that can indicate a lot of

24:22 Okay and so what we have here a bacterial two types of bacteria,

24:30 has a four hour doubling time and 1 15. Right so doubling time

24:42 the same thing as generation time. , bacteria that binary vision one generation

24:49 be one cell divide into two. . More practical standpoint. We use

24:55 We use generation time uh population to right when we're measuring growth. Okay

25:04 it's it's uh typically use optical We measure the cloudiness of liquid culture

25:13 as a parameter of their growth. optical O. D. Units refers

25:18 optical density. So it has an of 00.5 versus a 12 is much

25:27 . 1.5 indicates absorbed into light as grow as a culture of. So

25:35 you do is it's prone to .5 that time there was a generation

25:42 Okay. Time for it to So um so in on both sides

25:48 we have so so the equation we and this is the real basic equation

25:54 this thing here um Alright here my is not working. Okay. So

26:03 one here uh so in this population . So what's the population of eight

26:10 zero versus sometime in the future T Okay. And is generation

26:18 Okay Um so at 20 hours, many cells do we have, what

26:25 looking for on each side? How many generations are there in 20

26:30 ? OK And so it's a generation or doubling time? On the left

26:37 one generation every four hours and 40 ? We've got five generations. And

26:44 on this side. Oh I'm we keep going. So now we're

26:48 gonna plug in the values. So this is in is is that's

27:00 Not working? That's in. Okay we just plug it in and zero

27:06 10 cells right from up here. and uh multiplied by two to the

27:13 right to the ends we get 320 . But that was for anyway on

27:21 inside It's one generation. Every point every 15 minutes, 15 minutes,

27:29 generation every 15 minutes or .25 Right? 5 28 generations. And

27:36 think you already know how much we're to differ here numbers. Right?

27:41 that's two years of being an 10 to 25th, 7, 10

27:47 25th versus versace versace, jesus, on. Um this versus that huge

28:00 . Right? So just that what not seem like a big 10 times

28:05 huge in terms of how many cells get. E coli has something in

28:08 order of about 15, 20 minutes optimal conditions. Okay now um the

28:16 how fast can attend something in nature produce that many cells in a short

28:24 . Not very often, but there be influx of nutrients somehow that can

28:29 this to happen. We'll look at of those things when we talk about

28:33 ecology because there can be an influx nutrients that can cause of birth but

28:39 days are finite and generally there's very strict competition and nutrients are typically limiting

28:46 you don't get this kind of explosion growth but it can't happen here and

28:50 . So um as we look at , we're going to kind of get

28:56 somewhat from this, this basic Right? And then solve producer producing

29:03 we're in is more easily figure it . Okay, Because once we can

29:09 that number for a lot of different as well. See Okay, so

29:16 so as mentioned you can look at that's certainly producing one generation. They're

29:23 but again we use typically the time a population that double as our generation

29:28 unlimited growth. You may have. recalled from ecology you talked about um

29:37 in the context of microbes necessarily but all fits um remember recall the J

29:44 curve. Right? So if you in our context here with time,

29:52 axis number of cells on this A J shaped curve gives you that

30:01 rapid growth. Of course that doesn't on forever as we all know.

30:06 , it flattens out, right, talk about this in the next section

30:11 on growth curves. Right. But exponential growth can be on occasion where

30:16 does happen, but again it's a thing. And so with the way

30:22 course microbes grow Exponential growth and exponential growth growth are kind of used

30:31 Okay, it just means a very growth 4-8-16 and so forth. This

30:37 of progression here. Okay. And um and so we're dealing with a

30:45 that can change and very big, range of numbers from small to very

30:52 , right? Like a ph scale also a water based and scale.

30:57 ? So you try to kind of compress so you can make it more

31:02 . And when you plot data in way there is a typical growth curve

31:08 would uh get here. So here's density. So again using measurement of

31:16 cloudy liquid getting is bacteria growing um taking the log values of that log

31:25 gives you a this would be the of the very rapid growth that would

31:32 . Okay. And so um so very easy to measure. Okay this

31:38 respected thermometer and liquid culture of bacteria just take samples and you measure any

31:46 . So um so let's uh look uh converting this equation here here into

31:58 that is more manageable as we'll see . Okay. So we're gonna do

32:03 we're gonna solve this equation for little Number of generations. Um so what

32:10 do is we start to start going a lot of the base 10.

32:14 . And we we remember logs Multiplying dividing of logs is a little

32:22 . Okay. And so this expression can be simplified you see in the

32:33 . Right? So this will simplify that so long as the base 10

32:40 the end is the same as Times log base 10 of two.

32:45 that number equals 20.301. Right? that equals that. Okay so you

32:56 so think of that as the as power of growth. Right? This

33:01 growth. Okay? And so then can just solve for n. And

33:06 get that. Okay, so uh very often what we like to do

33:14 a time element to that. so measuring number of generations over time

33:19 can do that. We can get it's called a growth rate comes about

33:24 . Notice just adding time to right? Right here. T.

33:31 T. Okay, so every species kind of growth rate constant,

33:37 Uh brought you grow it there will a growth rate you'll get every time

33:45 grow it you can go the same your bras, you'll always get that

33:49 growth rate constant. Okay, For any species. Okay. And

33:55 the other thing to value here is generation time rights. Okay, this

34:02 per time. Right? So remember this, right? This this right

34:12 , is that which is generations. ? And so we're just putting a

34:18 element to it as well, generations time. So the inverse of that

34:22 the generation time. Okay, so gonna use and these will be again

34:29 to you. So we're gonna use We're gonna use this one.

34:38 And this one for our problems. And it's typical that generation times in

34:48 but you may not see it in for something that's really slow.

34:53 pretty much it's usually minutes. so we're gonna look at this

34:57 I'm not gonna ask you to derive equation on a on a test,

35:04 be given this formula. Um So won't need to memorize that. Okay

35:12 as we do the problems, you'll how this all works. Okay so

35:16 first one here, let's try it your own first. Yeah you do

35:23 not sure about it. It's That's why we're gonna go through

35:26 Um step by step. So the houstonians, cougar Insys has a generation

35:40 . 40 minutes. Okay. Starting five cells in log phase. How

35:46 minutes to produce? About 10,000 Okay so the way I'm gonna show

36:25 you're gonna think it's probably kind of but I just kind of set it

36:29 up. Right? So you kind know logically how we go through each

36:35 . Okay. Okay. It's just camp down. Yeah if you're not

37:05 , just Give it your best Okay. Alright I'm counting down from

37:18 . You anything. Alright so let's through it. So step one like

37:30 said I keep it kind of basic set everything up here so you can

37:34 the logic. So uh so we're zero N. T. Perhaps.

37:39 so going for 5 to 10,000, long is it gonna take? Right

37:44 what we're asking. Okay so we this right generation time is minutes per

37:50 so if you can figure out right basically asking actually uh Yeah,

37:58 we can figure out in, So we can figure out this that's

38:05 end value, Right? Number That's in. Alright. So that's

38:08 this right here. Okay. So know N. T. And

38:12 Zero right here and there. So plug it in. Right? So

38:18 we'll do is we know that. right. 40 minutes per generation is

38:21 we're given. Um If you can a number of generations, right?

38:27 figure this out. Um Then we use that to multiply by our generation

38:36 . Not give us minutes because generations cancel out. Okay? So here's

38:41 we do it, right? So then plug in R. N.

38:46 . Uh N. Zero values five 10,000. Do the math. And

38:51 get 11 generations. Okay. Then we take that multiplied by generation

38:59 is canceled, right? We have minutes, which is 60 minutes in

39:05 hour, 60 times seven is 4 at seven hours. A little over

39:09 hours back to right this one lower . Okay. Um That's okay.

39:22 if you just if you set it like I like I did then I

39:27 it makes sense logically. Okay. wise. Okay. Um And uh

39:34 questions. It's not clicking yet. mean I also know that um because

39:43 says here uh There's like there's like practice problems. Either two of

39:50 There's three new ones in there, there is a sheet in there that

39:54 you the blow by blow like I did it here. It works it

39:57 out. So you're having it's not quick and look through that,

40:03 If you have questions let me Okay um Okay so here's another way

40:09 ask a question. Okay this is for a generation time. Okay.

40:15 actually calculated generation time, so that's generation time is, right? So

40:22 if we have not heard cells for hours That produces over three million

40:30 what will be the generation time? So let's see if we can do

40:34 one timer's on. Okay let's count 54. Okay uh see what we

42:19 here. So we set it Okay parameters 900 minutes. So if

42:31 ever M. T. And Zero. So we figure out a

42:35 of generations, right? And we how much time has elapsed that will

42:40 calculate generation time, right? So . Is almost 12 generations And our

42:49 spans 900 minutes. So divided by and you get 76 minutes.

42:55 So anyway you may might need may may not need to do the set

43:00 kind of a thing, but I if you do that you're less likely

43:03 make mistakes. So but it's up you. Okay but like I said

43:07 more practice problems if you want to through those questions. Uh let me

43:13 . Okay everything questions now. Alright so um of course what do

43:23 do with this stuff? Well if have for example uh you threw at

43:30 time when you're growing the bacteria on certain growth medium and you want to

43:33 can I improve that by including some the nutrients? This will give you

43:38 quantitative answer of that. Uh Maybe testing some kind of antimicrobial and you

43:45 to your culture of control, it's added. Look at generation time.

43:50 there a difference there? So you there's of course practical applications to

43:54 Okay um The okay so speaking of let's go into um growth curve.

44:02 here's a question. Okay so there's parts of this growth curve of course

44:09 different things happen. Each grows Okay so you're looking at that um

44:18 me just explain what batch grows a growth curve is. Okay does anybody

44:23 a water bottle on or other water ? So let's say this is so

44:40 rose just simply you not claim Okay and then the only time I'm

44:47 do anything with this after that point to take samples and measure growth.

44:53 that's what I'm gonna do and then gonna follow it all the way through

44:58 it dies. Okay I'm gonna see kind of growth curve I get and

45:04 all I'm doing. So that's basically one batch right? And we're just

45:08 the cells from birth to death if want to think about it that

45:12 that's what batch growth way there are of that. Uh So uh let's

45:25 what we have here. Okay and like I said we can do manipulations

45:34 just that basic batch growth to get sells. Right? Um And so

45:41 kind of things you know on a scale if you especially biotech majors working

45:49 industry and you're gonna commercialize something maybe micro or some kind of enzyme or

45:55 protein of interest um that you it's practical to work. I mean not

46:03 just to just have tea spoons and . You need buckets and barrels and

46:08 right? Which means you have to these cultures of the high density to

46:12 in the product right? If you're commercialize and make money on it.

46:16 So there's ways to do that as see. Okay so correct answer here

46:30 yes is e. Okay all these true. There's no false ones.

46:40 So you do get cell size changes time. Okay? Um We'll explain

46:48 exponential changes. So certainly there's exponential here. There can also be exponential

46:54 here. There is in death right? So when you're given plentiful

46:59 you can grow like crazy. Okay when you're when nutrients are completely gone

47:07 equally die like crazy going this way it's really this part of the curve

47:15 we focus on in chapter five? looking at control of microbial growth?

47:18 you want to add stuff and kill whether physical or chemical means to make

47:25 die as fast as possible. Um So remember d is about rapid

47:31 , right? When you have rapid is typically when penicillin has better action

47:37 . So it's gonna be in phase . Uh So let's look at the

47:43 of these. Okay so uh so batch growth curve. And um so

47:52 face. Okay which is right here part here now whether um whether how

48:06 this is Right that slag. So begins once you inoculate inoculate needs to

48:13 , it's like planting seeds and adding . Plant growth. Right? You

48:16 cells to a liquid medium. Not . Okay that's what they call it

48:23 . There's a lag before it picks . Okay so that lack many things

48:30 . Is the lag like this? it shorter? Is it maybe gross

48:37 here instead or is it long? . The length of that, like

48:43 of things factoring. Okay so picture bacterium. So what's the nature of

48:52 because that came from something? It be from a plate culture. It

48:57 be from a liquid culture. How was that inoculation growing in liquid culture

49:02 three days? Or the large cells ? Okay. How much did you

49:10 it you had when Miller had 10 did you are the media media in

49:17 one the same. Right. Are , are they completely different?

49:21 Uh so all these factors. So think of kind of the micro

49:27 of the cells. Right. So in an in ocular and that gross

49:31 , whatever it is. And now plop them into something super fresh.

49:35 . Well that's gonna be slight subtle in temperature, ph salinity concentrations before

49:44 to it. So all these factor while the lag place. Okay,

49:51 if you're going from a medium medium its very different. Right? So

49:56 a medium that's very rich. lots of nutrients that can just take

50:01 and I have to make anything and it's going to a million the meeting

50:08 are gonna be put on because I'm be able to start with because it

50:10 to turn on different metabolic pathways to able to grow in this meeting.

50:14 . And all that takes time. . So again, what factors into

50:21 ? How long a lag faces are things growth media type? Physical

50:27 there's probably some slight differences in 02 media. Okay, the age of

50:33 size etc. So all these things in to that lag face. And

50:38 um but once it is out of it goes right, so once it

50:44 acclimated then it takes off. And that can be quite rapid depending

50:50 the growth medium and these other Okay. So of course log represents

50:59 most active metabolically speaking. And so not uncommon that uh in we refer

51:07 what's called mid log phase. Call that mid log if it's producing

51:16 of interest enzyme or whatever that you will like the sample during that time

51:21 figure out to get a good measure the activity. Okay. Now it

51:27 vary depending on what the product is the microbe. Um that's why you

51:34 in the early stages of you are to commercial process a biological process.

51:40 figure out all these parameters called bench which is like small flats and small

51:47 . Right? You can take a of measurements very easily. Right?

51:52 simple experiments very easily with smaller maps stuff. But the ending wrap it

51:59 scaling up. Okay. And so the bench scale you figure out,

52:04 , what is the basic growth curve this meeting? What do I see

52:09 take samples all along the way to , Okay, what is the activity

52:13 my product at different points? Where I measure it at? Where is

52:17 optimal? These are all things you out when you know at this

52:22 Okay, then it becomes Okay, here's the baseline. Now, how

52:28 I enhance things. Right. That's that's now where you manipulate growth

52:33 Right? You have different things To enhance the product formation.

52:39 And so that's a whole other So ultimately you get to a stage

52:45 this is the one that works and scale that up. Okay and scallop

52:50 be anything from 500 Uh 20 gallons two 1000 leaders to um 10,000 or

53:05 seen 100,000 liter tanks. So it depends. Okay but it's all these

53:11 things we're talking about that you do the early stages. Okay so log

53:16 aside from fast growth and lots of , his cell size changes. So

53:23 actually growing lots of cells and that of any kind of this uh if

53:27 drawing out a rod shaped cell and of this kind of state of

53:32 right? Not to sell her in form right? As they split and

53:38 two cells. Right? So the of the cell itself, right?

53:43 get they can elongate and then they big enough and they split and form

53:49 selves. Right? So their biggest log phase. Okay whether a rod

53:54 a caucus, they're gonna be at biggest size and likely in this mid

53:59 phase. Okay. Um So but course you're gonna get to a point

54:07 , sorry up here, Lake Right, and so now that tipping

54:16 where you get so many cells we have enough nutrients to sustain everybody.

54:20 ? So the road is gonna rapidly and death growth rate. Death rate

54:25 much equal. And I'm getting the phase. Okay so uh so now

54:30 kind of becomes survival mode. Okay we're not out of nutrients yet,

54:38 we're certainly limits getting more limited. now these kind of like a stress

54:43 . So as it as the cells kind of limited nutrients, they tend

54:49 then shut off or minimize metabolic pathways don't need. Okay especially those that

54:58 energy. Okay, so like protein is limited to only only critical type

55:06 or four critical type of functions. So size, it's small,

55:11 Um smaller cells just to keep up the right, better able to survive

55:17 being a big one. Big cell it was in the log face.

55:22 And so you know of course as has become limited, you know,

55:27 more cells are dying, right? Dead cells are actually food sources

55:33 right? The celeb diet, they their full of carbohydrates and protein.

55:38 that could be used as a food . So the cells can live off

55:40 for a while. But ultimately when get to hear right, then you're

55:47 . Zero, right? Nothing to . Right? And that's why death

55:52 exponentially right? There's there's nothing no brooks and curves, they're gonna start

55:57 dying very rapidly. Okay, So but there are we mentioned I mentioned

56:05 these types that are per sisters or types. Uh They can prolong they

56:16 stationary phase. I'm not gonna say forever but for a good while they

56:23 rely on a member they can maintain member of potential. So we can

56:29 about the proton pump. So they maintain kind of something like that to

56:35 them for a while. Not enough really gross but remain viable at this

56:41 about remaining viable. Not so much . Okay so but that can sustain

56:47 for a while. Another example of will talk about next time it's forming

56:53 industry. And those sports are kind normal forms of itself. Okay so

56:58 that can be an option depending on cell type. Okay so some things

57:02 can happen when so it's getting these limited states. Some can form a

57:08 some control what's called a cyst which kind of spore like. So there

57:12 be some forms that can allow them survive for a period of time in

57:17 kind of stress states. Okay now not not all not all bacterial or

57:23 types can do this but there are that can. Okay um Okay so

57:31 any questions? So let's look at question here. Okay yeah so this

57:44 let me just get this here. so this one I kind of mentioned

57:51 already but let's do this anyway so bacterial inoculate um Has grown nutrient broth

57:58 sample of his column is transferred to . That's basically. So we're going

58:05 here to hear. Okay so this our kill him this is our batch

58:16 medium. Okay so we're not playing with the culture growing nutrient broth.

58:24 so we have these patterns A. . And C. So note right

58:32 the in Oculus um is grown in broth. Right? It looks like

58:37 . Right so we go from that that we get that. Okay just

58:46 a comparison. So again not like put it in M9. What's it

58:57 look like? Is it gonna look a as well look like be like

59:02 okay time around. Okay. Yeah predicted that. Yeah focus on

60:10 Right. It's all about changing the phase. Right? So um they're

60:17 to a middle meat. So now got a nutrient broth it can get

60:24 nutrients from these components. Give me acid etcetera. You're going to go

60:30 M. Nine. It's gonna it's only got the basics here right?

60:34 so it's gonna have to make these track so to speak. And so

60:40 gonna take time and turning on genes cetera and that means more time.

60:46 lag face. Uh So alright so from that one so let's think about

60:52 in terms of a different example here say that this is N.

61:01 And this is N. B. broth. Okay both those RNB.

61:07 And so the cells the same cell say just say it's equal equal.

61:12 hear an equal here. So number . So the curve, you know

61:21 inflection and whatnot. Right? All kind of looks the same. More

61:27 less. Okay. But of course number of cells. Right. So

61:30 have here and then up here. , so there's a difference there and

61:40 yield. Right? Both grown and but B has more cells.

61:45 So they're both grown on this on nutrient broth. But yet he

61:53 more cells. So that that's that's to what we call batch back

62:02 Okay, So you have batch growth then you can feed that batch,

62:07 can add stuff, right? And growth. Okay, so uh exactly

62:15 we're doing. So we can get a point. So maybe like right

62:20 , right here, we would there at that point we'd add at what

62:33 gonna be the biggest influence in So you another worker glucose would be

62:41 . Right? So added carbon. ? And you can take a trip

62:46 even though it doesn't have broth, can add just add carbon. Doesn't

62:51 . But for me it matters that has to be heated but um he

62:56 lots of things. So and add glucose to your broth that will increase

63:02 . Okay, and uh that's what do. And these kind of biotech

63:11 settings, right? When you're trying get lots of cell yield the way

63:16 get maximum yield is to control everything temperature and ph control oxygen levels control

63:25 source, right? If you do that they'll grow insane. Okay.

63:32 high yields. Okay. You just to figure out what it is that

63:36 like and need makes them happy. . So what you see here on

63:40 left, okay, is a computer controlled, computer controlled setup by

63:48 . Okay. Where you control all parameters? Right over here, our

63:54 again, all programmed for maintaining ph of them are being nutrients. So

64:01 source, likely timed intervals um and all the stuff up here uh tubing

64:10 whatnot coming out the top of the . These are different other controls.

64:16 ? So if you grow uh let's we can do this batch growth.

64:28 ? And we get um that and get a lot of growth. The

64:35 batch thing, right? And we we do it multiple times. Do

64:41 maybe two or three more times. ? And we get up to say

64:45 get up to up to here Let's say we get I don't know

64:50 make up a number. We get 100 od 100 0. D.

64:56 . Optical density, super thick Right? And it takes us let's

65:02 let's say it takes us I don't um you have to add make up

65:08 crazy number 1000 g of glucose and get that high density super high.

65:20 have to do it over three or feedings or more. Okay. But

65:25 get that high. Now the question why Why can't we all be at

65:30 beginning? We have to have it a pain in the butt come in

65:33 add stuff every three or four hours front. You have to worry about

65:41 you do that. It turns out they don't grow. Why was

65:46 The property is something we talked about you three. What might be the

65:55 that they wouldn't uh all this stuff . 1000 g of glucose poured in

66:02 the beginning plus the other stuff. actually high amount of what in that

66:12 ? Yes, maybe uh osmosis So be super hyper tonic. If

66:22 do that. Okay. And that or inhibit growth. So I just

66:27 water. It's fighting water coming out the cell into the surrounding. So

66:32 focused on that and not focused on . Right? So that's why you

66:37 do that. Okay. You have do it, get the meter it

66:42 right over time. Uh If the bank chairman culture is medically fit.

66:48 if you do all this stuff right reactor very quickly become oxygen.

66:55 So heroes in this case and that's what you're growing is ending its

67:00 cell densities and error because that's going give you the most cell density.

67:05 so you control that as well. we can control all these things.

67:09 ? So here's an example of a and a different control. Right?

67:14 we have nutrients oxygen. There's a that measures oxygen concentration, ph and

67:21 probe. So I'm measuring all these . Okay, acid base edition.

67:28 ? Um So um so you measure things, right? And particularly

67:34 you wouldn't think temperature but if you have temperature control, so the water

67:40 , cold water helps to maintain If you didn't have that e coli

67:45 growing up to like 100 ods, glass would be super hot. In

67:51 , itself would die. It gets hot. Remember bio energetic giving out

67:56 as as a part of the And so it can get super hot

68:00 quick when they're growing like crazy. you have to water water control the

68:05 . Um And then of course uh ph is relatively simple. Use ad

68:11 bases needed uh at nutrients um as . And typically these tie together nutrient

68:21 and D. O. Can kind tell you resolve options to kind of

68:24 you when you add more nutrients But then you need to um uh

68:30 auction you can add air, And so it comes in and then

68:37 thing here called the Spar Jer this so that's sort of the area isn't

68:43 bubbled in, right? It's forced through a Spar Jer. Right?

68:48 that does is creates tiny bubbles. ? Gasses makes better into a quick

68:55 if they're tiny bubbles, big So spark. There's always a part

69:01 the process to make it gas more in the liquid. Right? So

69:05 greatly increases absorption. And then the these things here are the whole thing

69:14 called an impeller blades and the terms right, rotate, creating turbulence,

69:21 ? To help mix those gas bubbles the medium as well as other stuff

69:26 . So so typically when D. . Dissolved the auction goes down,

69:31 increase it a combination of things to the turbulence and get mixing, you

69:39 compressed air into the system to get in there. So a combination of

69:43 those things will help you get enough itself will grow very quickly.

69:50 high cell density. Now, if don't have all the sophisticated equipment,

69:56 . And I've been there you can a lot of stuff with just this

70:02 surprisingly okay with just that okay, can control ph now you're doing all

70:11 this. You're doing manually, It's not computer controlled. It's it's

70:16 controlled. Okay. That can be pain in the butt, okay because

70:20 have to constantly monitor it. You to go in at all hours of

70:24 night and whatnot. But nonetheless you have a ph indicator so it turns

70:30 when it's acid ready when it's So you just add the original and

70:35 the red color range. Pop right if it's um uh the the

70:41 . O. Part of the Right we don't have a D.

70:43 . Probe in here but so we can't monitor that. But what we

70:49 do is maximize the amount of air into it. Okay so you notice

70:54 have these little indentations here in the bottom. Right? And so that

71:02 helps create more turbulence, more Okay surprisingly it makes a difference if

71:07 look at a just a flat bottom glass where there's one like this there's

71:11 significant difference in terms of how Okay that plus you can these things

71:16 always in a incubator course and help temperature so you can do that and

71:24 you shake them. It's a platform shakes so you can increase rpm and

71:34 can increase rpm. Have these little they call those baffles baffled flask.

71:41 that that combination can help you get of errands. So you're never gonna

71:46 the equivalent of what you get in thing but I was shocked myself how

71:52 growth you can get with just controlling that way and my manual addition and

71:57 these other things. So again I'm gonna get what you get in a

72:01 . Plus the bioreactors. All computer . Right? But nonetheless you know

72:06 can you can do some things depending the resources you've got. Okay um

72:14 a lot of the stuff I've just talking about this for you, biotech

72:17 . I'm not gonna give you an questions on what esparza is.

72:22 but hopefully you can apply this knowledge . Okay? Um Any questions?

72:32 . So I'm gonna keep. Perfect. Alright, so almost quarter

72:38 , so thanks folks, we'll see on better

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