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00:02 Welcome back. Today is thursday, wish it was, but it's

00:11 Tuesday February seven And we have the potential. We already started talking about

00:17 action potential a little bit last we will continue talking about that

00:22 And then the next lecture also we continue talking about the action potential and

00:27 concept of the back propagating action potential back propagating spike after that, which

00:35 basically a week from today. So these two lectures a week from today

00:40 Tuesday, we will have our midterm review online, so we will not

00:47 a class meeting on Tuesday next We'll have it life online over the

00:54 and I will provide you with the link uh the day before or two

01:00 before via the email that will go your um h e mails.

01:05 if you have any questions on the that we discussed on any material,

01:12 there's something you don't understand, look up before the review session, maybe

01:20 the video on the video points. if you still have those questions come

01:26 the review session prepared and you can those questions. What I typically do

01:32 I cover each section In about 20 minutes, some of the more

01:40 concepts of slides, it doesn't mean is the only thing they're going to

01:43 on the exam, but I think maybe these are important ones that everybody

01:47 know period And at that point you ask questions and you can raise your

01:54 and you can type them on the and I will check periodically every 15

01:59 or so as we go through the and the review will also be about

02:05 hour and 10 minutes an hour and minutes depending how we proceed. So

02:11 so everybody's on the same page it's seven Tuesday. It's our Lecture seven

02:21 . And if you look at your materials, what we have here is

02:27 have some of the information that is going to relate back to what we

02:32 the biophysical number and properties and the of the membrane equivalent circuit as well

02:43 the concept of the I. Curves that we will be reviewing uh

02:51 in in this lecture we'll see if get to today or in the following

02:58 . So from the very beginning what said is that whenever you see the

03:03 wave like boxes, right? The boxes. This is electronics. So

03:11 the left on the diagram which you're would be what electronics produce. And

03:18 do we talk about electronics? Because talking about recording membrane potentials. We're

03:23 about recording action potentials. Okay and do that we need electrophysiology. We

03:34 instrumentation and so we need electrodes and . Electronic and the electrodes. They

03:42 very fast immediate circuits that turn on off sort of like an example would

03:48 on much lower scales. A light . You can turn on the light

03:52 and turn off the light switch. these would be current injections or current

03:59 that we can produce with electrodes and this direction, their outward and in

04:04 direction, their inward. So the as illustrated here on what we call

04:11 ivy graph here. I stands for in Nottingham person V or membrane

04:20 B M is in mila vaults So what we have also here is

04:27 current by convention. So positive nana parent values is outward current, negative

04:37 and pear. Or any ampere values this configuration by convention are inward

04:46 So, first of all, when produce something like this on the left

04:51 the electronics with instrumentation and you stimulate cell or in other words, you

04:58 or pass the current to conduct the from the electrode into the cell.

05:03 cell doesn't respond in the same square like fashion as you're seeing in a

05:11 on the left. And that is the cell membrane has certain properties that

05:20 that I'm talking about, the equivalent a light switch that you can turn

05:24 or off the electronics. Turn on switch. But you can imagine the

05:30 instead of turning on, it's sort like the dimmer that gets brighter when

05:35 turn off, it's the dimmer that slowly back to the dark life

05:42 So these are responses of the south it's only to the resistive and capacitive

05:51 of the membrane. The resistance or in depends on the resting channel density

06:01 the membrane surface area. So it how many channels you have on the

06:08 . And also what's the surface area the membrane with the input resistance is

06:18 . M. Which is the membrane . Because remember current cannot flow through

06:25 membranes. The membrane is completely resistant current. But if you have channels

06:32 those channels are opening up that means are flowing. But there's still

06:39 That means that on all of the immediately cross. We said that they

06:43 fast. But there is resistance And we talked about how the resistance

06:48 neurons is very high values and tens hundreds of megatons. We talked about

06:55 relative scales of voltage current resistance and . Which is the universe of

07:02 Right so here you have the fact the input resistance is Iran divided by

07:10 pi a square. Where a. the radius of hysterical neurons. So

07:19 means that the larger this neuron The smaller the input resistance, the

07:34 the neuron because A. Is the of hysterical neuron. So that means

07:39 small cells will have very high input . Because they're a values are gonna

07:46 smaller. Pie will stay the same both configurations. Resistance and capacities.

07:52 other way to view what's happening at membrane is changing voltages equal ir equal

08:00 or the input resistance into the zone when we're talking about capacitance. What

08:07 capacitance? Capacitance is the ability or to store charge. So capacitance or

08:16 in voltage can also be viewed as change in charge which is Q.

08:24 over a capacitor of capacities. So change voltage charge has to be added

08:30 removed from capacitor. And in this we're talking about the plasma membrane which

08:36 a capacitor which is storing a lot charge has the capability of storing and

08:44 now so that I see here and general we're not gonna pay that much

08:53 about the capacity of current flows. the capacities the input capacitance is capacities

09:02 the memory. And in this time this case times for pi a square

09:10 a again as the radios. So the input resistance, if there's a

09:16 south and the input resistance is high a value is small. If the

09:23 is small and the a value is , the capacities is going to be

09:29 . So that one is R. over four pi a squared. And

09:35 is C N. Times four pi squared. Now in your lecture,

09:42 you have is this description of what call membrane equivalent circuits. But what

09:49 that mean? That means that a can be viewed as a circuit as

09:55 electrical circuit. In other words you build it in the physics lab or

10:01 chemistry lab you can build a circuit each channel can be viewed as a

10:10 . So this is a symbol for . Yeah, this is the symbol

10:19 resistance r sometimes and most of the the resistors are variable because each channel

10:29 it's closed, if it has very resistance, if it's open it has

10:34 resistance then it is partially open. has somewhere in between. These are

10:39 resistors. It's also the same symbol conductors. The variable and doctors are

10:48 resistance is not # nine, it's . That's a symbol. Each one

10:55 the channels has electro motive force. . That that's the electrochemical, the

11:03 of charge and the electrical gradients electro forces. Which is in a way

11:08 channel also has its own battery. the symbol for battery is that it

11:14 one plate that's longer here, that's and another one that's negative. And

11:20 the representation of the membrane equivalent Or in this case of a potassium

11:29 equivalent circuit. Yeah. And each of these channels will have their own

11:37 sodium representation of their own variable conductor sodium and the battery conductor potassium the

11:46 conductor for florida. And the And the battery of course, is

11:50 to depend because the drive from the is going to depend. We will

11:55 about the driving force already started discussing the driving forces and we'll come back

12:00 talk about it some more electrochemical driving . What we discussed is the difference

12:09 between the number of potential and the potential of a given, remember

12:18 Oh so we'll come back to But this is important that you understand

12:25 vehicles Ir or the difference here is driving force between the M. And

12:29 . K. Because I are we then have the conductance equals one over

12:36 . I. Is equal B over . Therefore I is equal conductance times

12:43 or V R minus C. So the current is really conducting the

12:48 force for that comeback. Now the symbol the will add later here that

12:58 already discussed is a capacitor and this the symbol for capacitor and electronics,

13:16 and capacitor. So current for potassium I. K. For potassium which

13:28 the conductance. Right conductance stands vis like a vm minus minus conductance of

13:37 . Times basically the driving force of stands and driving force. So the

13:45 current generated by chemical gradient and potential . The total conductance depends on the

13:53 of the channels that are open. you can actually calculate conductance to the

13:57 channel. But that patch of the may have 100,000 channels. And you

14:02 calculate the total conductors which will then the total conductors of potassium will be

14:08 of the potassium channels and the number potassium channels times are given conductance value

14:14 a single potassium channel. So you measure conductance values the potassium single potassium

14:21 value And you can also estimate or the overall conductance through all of the

14:28 channels. You can also calculate the through all of the other channels at

14:33 same time, all of the ions the same time. This is a

14:41 equivalent circuit representation where you have the cellular side, you have the conductors

14:46 resistors, you have the batteries notice the battery sides and science are inverted

14:52 because it depends on the separation of for that specific ion. And here

14:59 have for example, active flux is sodium current is flexing okay through the

15:08 . Okay, flexing through the conductor through the channel and it's going from

15:14 to inside, potassium will be going inside to outside of the cell.

15:21 this representation here you have another symbol stands for N A K pump,

15:28 an A K A T P A . And then the capacitor and there

15:33 certain qualities for capacitor to be a capacitor. Overall, the membrane capacitor

15:41 leaky. So the capacitor is slightly . Remember we said that it's not

15:48 holding the charge because it's leaking potassium potassium is most permissible addressing number of

15:55 . So it's a leaking capacitor but the same time it's a good capacitor

16:01 to be a good capacitor you have have a lot of surface area.

16:05 we talked about the it depends directly the size of the radius of the

16:12 . So the more of the surface , the more charge you can

16:15 the two plates of the capacitor has be close to each other because if

16:21 too far apart in space, uh charge that has to go from one

16:28 of the member into the other is take longer time. So the closer

16:32 are the better it is. And are the two places. The possible

16:36 bi layer capacitor has to charge up . So when you when you stimulate

16:44 the cell this should not take tens the milliseconds. This should take a

16:50 milliseconds. Once the electronic light switch on, the dimmer should kick in

16:56 a few milliseconds. Okay, the charge should load up on one side

17:01 that aside when you stop the stimulus you turn off the switch electronics.

17:09 the cell membrane is like a It's gonna also slowly decrease and re

17:16 to its value before it was So these steps here are showing increasingly

17:24 current inputs and this is measuring a in voltage. Right? So this

17:31 current here I again and this is . So it's showing that for the

17:37 amount of outward current or inward This cell has a linear current voltage

17:46 or linear I. D. So it doesn't matter if you stimulate

17:50 cell with the outward or with the current for the same amount of change

17:56 nana in pairs for the same amount change in nana am pairs in the

18:02 direction. Half nanogram per one nana or the outward direction. Half banana

18:08 , one nana empire. You'll always the same change in voltage.

18:14 so this is what gives this linear and this is I. V.

18:20 or response from the plasma membrane. you can draw yourselves this number and

18:27 circuits uh and make sure that you these symbols that you can recognize.

18:34 symbols label these symbols and recognize the circuit where the currents are moving ions

18:40 in their respective correct directions. sodium potassium outside pumps are working against concentration

18:49 and the higher the capacitor which is the charge. You have to memorize

19:04 part. Yes, there's only Yes. Yeah. It's very important

19:14 this is actually the basis for many in in physics or any electronic

19:19 capacitor, current, generator, This is what you have in your

19:29 . All right, Where are you three different ones? This is a

19:38 . This is a resistor. You about formulas? Well this is different

19:51 the symbols. The symbols you have know was if you know vehicles that

19:58 and jeez equal one over r you everything else. If you know the

20:02 force Vm minus C. K. know, again it's only three things

20:06 have to know and you have to what's the difference between ernst equation and

20:11 equation. You can actually outline yourself formulas that you need to know from

20:18 because we very clearly discussed the first Goldman equation. Okay. And then

20:24 are these are the symbols and then information you have to remember and memorize

20:30 this is something that is just a of the science that we're learning.

20:36 know some of the basics of the like the threshold fractured potential, you're

20:39 know it's -45 million holes and you're well I guess you will because it

20:45 be on the test so you I'm sorry. No I really mentioned

20:57 I think maybe after class last time for the learns and the Goldman equations

21:03 don't have to know the calculations you . Don't have to do the

21:08 You have to understand the variables and have to know the relative concentrations of

21:12 four dominant ionic species. No and think that I use this diagram a

21:19 of times to do this section that teaching the action for. Don

21:23 And what I would do if I prepared for the task is I would

21:30 this I just printed on the page have it on a power point or

21:35 . And I will write out everything I'm seeing here, what is

21:40 K. Write it out and write the value minus 90 is already there

21:48 out that E. A. Is . Ionic which is a collaborative potential

21:56 you have D. M. What it? It's number of potential right

22:01 it's number of potential be down and calculate membrane potential. You can write

22:11 I would use global equation calculate K. Nerds, nerds, nerds

22:20 beyond Goldman then you say what's the between and its variables that are different

22:28 the ability, viable. And also Goldman equation you're incorporating more than one

22:33 . So for Goldman you can say this and red passion and sodium and

22:39 your Goldman. This is how we plus P. Value which is

22:43 So I think that that's what I for students to to use when you're

22:50 know thinking what should I remember? lot of it is remembering things but

22:55 lot of it is really understanding the concept. Uh And there's some basic

23:02 formulas that I think are very Can label everything for example in the

23:08 . Um What is that? What you put under a teepee energy,

23:13 else against concentration? Great what Slow. Okay so you can use

23:19 to make this as your major study for the action potential. Um when

23:26 talk about these diagrams here I'm gonna about driving forces again or this yellow

23:32 , 80 threshold, this action potential value. And so let's uh come

23:41 to this in a second. But this will this will help you prepare

23:46 for this slide you can just label . Capacitor resistor battery. Well pump

23:54 already labeled here. sodium from outside potassium from inside out. It's it's

24:00 think it's fairly simple. So now other important thing when we are looking

24:08 these equations and we're talking about uh equation versus Goldman equation which is also

24:17 , Hodgkin and Cats equation. You not need to calculate the VM.

24:23 again, for example, I have that addressing member of potential, the

24:27 dominant ion that's crossing the membrane is . So at resting number and potential

24:36 permeability for potassium is one. The for sodium is 0.04 probability for

24:44 0.5. So that means that potassium way more dominant. Way more

24:53 But then what happens and sometimes it's like 20 times more permissible at rest

24:58 it is to sodium lines. And is how we would plug in.

25:03 example, three values. So you plug in potassium sodium and chloride.

25:13 is the same nonce equation VM. this case, in the equation we're

25:21 equilibrium were given ion the ionic is . T. We have Z.

25:26 hear we're getting rid of Z. we're adding a negative chloride also.

25:35 our T Zia and then you have natural of permeability. PK variable times

25:48 concentration of potassium outside versus inside PK outside inside florida outside versus inside And

25:55 ratios they never staying the same. permeability ratio. So if the wrestling

26:01 and potential is potassium that's leaking through leaking capacitor because it's just the way

26:07 neurons are built. They just have open leaking potassium channels. Or potassium

26:13 really dictating the membrane potential address because has the highest permeability to potassium during

26:21 rising phase of the action potential permeability sodium becomes 20 times higher. How

26:28 that happen? Because sodium channels open there's certain things that need to happen

26:34 order for sodium channels to open. talk about it uh the the kinetics

26:41 the sodium channels. So while addressed have potassium dominating during the rising phase

26:49 the sodium that is dominating and during following phases potassium dominating again. So

26:59 we have to first of all understand to to to study action potentials.

27:07 I'm gonna come back and refer to diagram again. Remember that the cell

27:14 is fluctuating around this RMP resting number potential value and this neuron is getting

27:22 inputs as it's getting excitatory inputs. d polarizes but this neuron is also

27:28 inhibitory input so it gets inhibitory inputs hyper polarizes and maybe it doesn't produce

27:34 action potential for a while depending on state of the neuron and the stimulus

27:39 coming into that neuron. You may this minus 65 mil of old membrane

27:49 fluctuating up D. Polarizing hyper polarizing D. Polarizing only if it reaches

27:57 threshold value for the action potential which actually potential threshold value here in

28:05 Only if enough of the excitatory stimulus this value will then this neuron is

28:14 to produce the action potential. So are all of the greatest synaptic

28:21 Excitatory and inhibitory that are coming into south. And if they're strong enough

28:26 for synaptic potentials it will drive the of potential, do these default values

28:33 that it's reaches the threshold value. will produce an action potential which is

28:39 or not. So if you reach value will always produce action but you

28:45 go on for a while without having cell produce an action potential. Just

28:49 what kind of inputs the cell is and which inputs are winning the inhibitor

28:55 are winning. The cell is not to fire an action potential. So

28:59 the rising phase which you have is influx. And if you recall if

29:04 recall we calculated the equilibrium potential or E. Ionic for sodium positive 62

29:14 is positive 55 value. I'm not be too picky on the exam to

29:18 you exact value but definitely no 55 60 positive D. N.

29:25 And then what's happening here is that the cell is a resting number in

29:30 . Remember that? The driving force is here in this green line

29:34 the driving forces Vm mindless E Okay, okay, so driving force

29:44 equal Ir Which is V. Or driving force V is equal. I

29:49 the driving force is equal Ir So the resting membrane potential is that these

29:54 polarized values, there's a huge difference VM Miller vault value here of let's

30:01 minus 67 minus 70. Right, is the number of potential which is

30:07 equation which is a combination of multiple . There's a big difference between number

30:12 potential and equilibrium potential for sodium That number and potential. There is not

30:19 of a driving force for potassium because potential for potassium is -90. It's

30:26 so it happens in nature that the contain these leaky potassium channels. And

30:31 why there's a lot of potassium that leaking out. But it's not because

30:36 has a very large driving force pushing out. Uh huh. So as

30:44 enough deep polarization and you open up channels, then sodium goes through what

30:51 call the positive feedback loop sodium comes . There's more deep polarization, positive

30:57 coming inside to sell more deep more positive charge. More deep

31:02 So, it's a positive feedback And sodium, what it's doing is

31:08 the overall number of potential to its equilibrium potential value of positive 55 but

31:15 fails to reach that value because the this number and potential gets to the

31:24 value for sodium. The smaller is driving force for sodium. So that's

31:31 reason why sodium driving this number and never reaches the equilibrium potential for sodium

31:38 the driving force that the more D it gets, the smaller this driving

31:44 is getting for sodium And the more polarized that the potentials, let's say

31:50 at positive 20. The driving force sodium here is small. Which island

31:56 a really big driving force here, because equilibrium potential for potassium is

32:05 The other reason why the number of never reaches the equilibrium potential for sodium

32:10 because of the certain kinetics and the of voltage gated sodium channels. And

32:17 not only the driving force that produces sodium, but it's also once these

32:22 open, they also close up very . So they're very transient in their

32:28 , in their conductance. They're fast transient so they open and close.

32:32 for those two reasons, the number potential never reaches the equilibrium potential for

32:38 . Although during the rising phase of action potential sodium is a dominating.

32:44 now, once you have a lot driving force for potassium from these positive

32:50 , there's a big difference here with potential for potassium, the number of

32:55 is being driven down to where the potential for potassium, but it almost

33:02 it, but it doesn't quite because more hyper polarized it gets, the

33:09 the driving force gets for potassium. also we start encountering sodium N.

33:17 . K pumps that are helping and this charge separation across plasma member into

33:25 resting membrane potential values. So during rising phase of the action potential,

33:32 cell is in the absolute refractory That means no action potential can be

33:38 here. So if you stimulate it sell more and more really strong

33:43 it's in the middle of action potential non event that cannot have another action

33:48 on top of this action potential. you cannot absolutely cannot produce another action

33:54 in this red phase here. But the number eight starts re polarizing and

34:00 growing closer to the resting membrane the most effective way to generate the

34:07 spike is to have the number of relax again to the wrestling number of

34:12 values and stimulate it somewhere here. if you needed to produce another action

34:18 in this falling phase of the action at the very end of it,

34:21 would enter a relative refractory period during a strong enough stimulus may generate a

34:28 action potential and then it would be at a higher frequency. And for

34:35 you would need a stronger stimulus to that. Yes. Uh It depends

34:46 selves have different uh inter spike We call or periods in between action

34:55 and as you saw themselves can produce spikes and others only produced seven a

35:01 . And that has to do with kinetics and the dynamics of the

35:05 gated channels of the express and also I. V. Curves that these

35:09 have. But this is what you're at basically anywhere between two spikes a

35:15 to 600 spikes a second depending on subtype. And this relative refractory period

35:23 gonna be different duration and different cell . So in some cells you can

35:29 them right before they even relax the number of potentials. Others you have

35:34 wait a couple of milliseconds so there's differences you know? Okay so we'll

35:42 back and continue talking about these diagrams it's always nice to see how this

35:48 started. So we're gonna watch a cool video of some of the original

35:54 and it will remind you of some the concepts that we discussed and how

36:01 got to this point and what was historically to study action potentials. The

36:12 pods, body plans and habits are very different from those of humans that

36:16 might almost be aliens from another So perhaps it's not surprising that it

36:22 a long time for scientists to discover there are fundamental similarities between the nervous

36:27 of pods and vertebrates yet it was recognition of a useful difference in their

36:37 system which enabled scientists to undertake research has led to a growing understanding of

36:42 mechanisms controlling our own nervous system. breakthrough concerned the nerves that control the

36:50 of the mantle muscles used in jet . As this archive film shows by

36:58 contracting its mental muscles. Even a sized squid can inject a huge amount

37:03 water with great force. Mhm. the mid 19 thirties, the british

37:13 Professor Jay Z. Young was engaged a study of the squid's anatomy.

37:19 observed an array of large tubular each as much as a millimeter in

37:24 in the squid's mantle. As these were never filled with blood, they

37:29 not have been blood vessels from their to surrounding nerve fibers. Young thought

37:35 must be single neurons, giant They're transmitted nerve impulses from the concentration

37:41 nervous tissue called a ganglion to the muscles. Using electrodes, he stimulated

37:52 surrounding nerve fibers and found that he only produce large muscle contractions in the

37:58 when the large tubular structures remained So these were indeed giant axons.

38:14 quickly appreciated the significance of Young's finding here at last was an axon,

38:19 and robust enough to investigate with the available at the time and one that

38:24 for several hours when isolated from the . The intracellular contents of the giant

38:35 could be removed and analyzed, leading the discovery that sodium ions were more

38:40 outside the nerve cell and potassium ions concentrated inside by refilling the empty axons

38:49 solutions of precisely known chemical composition experimenters able to unravel the mechanisms of iron

38:55 across the membrane. The giant axons large enough and robust enough for fine

39:06 to be inserted through the cell membrane into the axa plasm. In these

39:17 techniques, a fine glass tube was inserted into the axon and secured with

39:44 . Then the tube was used to a fine wire electrode from which the

39:49 between the inside and the outside could measured. But the formation of the

39:55 Impulse was far too rapid for detailed with any of the electrical measuring devices

40:00 the late 1930s, It wasn't until 1950s following the wartime improvement of electronic

40:08 such as the cathode ray Oscilloscope. major progress was made. Scientists found

40:16 the nerve impulse was transmitted as a wave of electrical potential and that this

40:22 or nothing action potential was generated mainly transient movements of sodium and potassium ions

40:29 the nerve membrane. Research on the giant axon unravel the mechanisms of the

40:37 and propagation of the nerve action This understanding led directly to the development

40:43 drugs that block action potential formation and act as local anesthetics now used routinely

40:50 painkillers in dentistry and minor surgery. you you have a link to this

41:02 your class lecture material. So you're to uh watch it as much as

41:09 want to. Uh I think that says a lot and kind of a

41:14 us back to a little bit of timeline that we keep mentioning throughout the

41:20 . So only 19 fifties, you those fastest telescopes that start picking up

41:28 . And I started doing my PhD 1996. And when I went to

41:38 lab, there was still a little of a trepidation when we wanted to

41:44 an action potential, it was still 40 years later, someone exciting,

41:51 unknown and difficult to to to capture . It involves quite a bit of

41:59 and modern day electrophysiology setup is typically quarter million to half a million and

42:07 of microscopy and sophisticated manipulators for the and such. So it takes it

42:13 a lot to even get to that . Even in modern day electrophysiology and

42:18 lot of it also depends on So when you're working with marine animals

42:24 survive in high sailing environment that, know, can live for a long

42:29 and colder temperatures or metabolism is not same. The great models. And

42:36 is a great model. So giant axon. Again, it's not

42:42 giant squid. The squid wasn't this squid swallowing a ship like medieval

42:48 but it was pretty sizable squid, the accent is one millimeter in

42:55 And that's why it was a great model to start analyzing what's inside

43:01 axon? What's outside the axon how we squeeze stuff out of the

43:06 How do we inject the dye? then remember we talked about fast and

43:10 ectoplasmic transport. So you can study ectoplasmic transport with these kind of

43:16 Just looking at how fast the dye get transported from one end of the

43:23 to the other and measuring the distance the time, inserting electrodes. And

43:29 that time when professor young was doing experiments, they said that he saw

43:35 he would stimulate the nerve and would a contraction. But he was not

43:42 to record those action potentials for another , 20 years until Hodgkin and Huxley

43:50 the two main scientists that recorded and and studied, analyzed and modeled action

43:59 . And another very important technician that to come about and it came about

44:05 uh another 2030 years later. It's voltage climb technique. And this is

44:12 all demonstration of the voltage plan. this is what you would envision is

44:17 similar to squid giant axon here. is the piece of axon right here

44:27 you have a electrode here. And that electorate is green electorate is

44:35 the current. So it's going to recording the membrane potential is going to

44:39 action potentials is going to record positive polarization and negative hyper polarization fluctuations.

44:47 , so why are we talking about quan? Because it's important to understand

44:53 , what we just talked about with potentials for different ions. We did

45:01 how we did it by doing So once you have squeezed out the

45:12 on internal content and you know the of sodium and potassium outside versus inside

45:18 other ions you can use that formula calculate equilibrium potentials. Right? But

45:27 is theoretical. That is based on You sunk an electrode that says

45:39 So you know the you know equilibrium you know. Um But well don't

45:49 know you haven't demonstrated experimentally is their potential for sodium or potassium that we

45:58 spend all this half an hour talking this is learns equation. But does

46:03 exist or is it just an equation just a mathematical formula that matches

46:08 So in order to understand individual ionic to isolate those individual and on occurrence

46:20 to study their equilibrium potentials. We to invent this other technique called the

46:26 clown. And without it we wouldn't an experimental demonstration of equilibrium potentials and

46:35 lot of things that we know in . The voltage clamp is done that

46:40 have this axon you have a recording . So one internal electrode measures VR

46:46 potential and it is connected to a clamp amplifier. It also has a

46:53 electrode. So if it's measuring -65 is a resting membrane potential. It's

46:59 it as a reference to something. in this case it's measuring as a

47:04 to neutral outside electrode which is zero neutral. So you're recording this information

47:13 , voltage clamp amplifier compares member and to the desired command potential. So

47:22 a second. We just talked about if I take an electrode and I

47:26 it inside the cell is -65. if something stimulates the cell is going

47:30 de polarize, I'm gonna record action . But I also want to control

47:36 I'm injecting inside the cell. I to control the member and potential.

47:41 want to command number of potential. this command potential is also a lot

47:47 times referred to as clamp potential. voltage clamp voltage command potential. And

47:55 do you want to command it? I want to set the number of

47:59 at the equilibrium potential for sodium and 55. Positive 60. And see

48:04 net flux of sodium. I want do that experimental. It's not enough

48:09 me to calculate it. The nurse . So to do that, I'm

48:13 say I'm gonna command whatever potential I in this dynamic range that the cell

48:18 sustain. From -80 -60 -40 I would go to positive 60.

48:28 gonna command it. I'm not just use the electorate as an antenna listening

48:34 the membrane and tracing the membrane. actually gonna tell the number of potential

48:41 have a certain potential. So I'm it when VM. So you're measuring

48:47 here number. So, my command says I want to keep the membrane

48:53 minus 40 sitting at minus 40. then the cell gets some inputs and

49:01 goes to minus 60. So now VM is different from the command potential

49:07 my my command is minus 40 but cell wants to go to minus 60

49:12 it's different. The client amplifying this will inject current into the axon to

49:17 second elector of this brown electrode. this feedback arrangement causes the number of

49:25 to become the same as the command . So, I told you to

49:30 here at minus 40 you want to 60. I'm gonna make up the

49:35 . I'm going to inject the 20 to bring it back to minus

49:40 Everything that blocks us through all of synaptic currents and inputs that are coming

49:46 . The current that is flowing back the axon and across its membrane is

49:52 here. So, all of the that are different from my command potential

49:57 be measured here in modern day voltage . Which essentially, you can see

50:06 clamping with your clamping is your clamping number and you're clamping the number.

50:12 so that you can isolate individual ionic is and study them, measure

50:19 Block them, see where they have political potentials. It's a negative feedback

50:27 because you can liken it to an feedback like you have in the uh

50:35 control air conditioner system. So you it 72 Temperature goes up to

50:44 The A. C. Kicks in brings it down to 72 negative feedback

50:50 . This is the same way you set minus sport goes to mind the

50:54 and you kick in the voltage clamp currents and you make up for the

50:59 . That's a negative feedback system. voltage climb has way more complex circuits

51:05 illustrated here and it actually only requires singular intracellular electric. So when in

51:14 original experiments, you needed to have electorates want to record the current,

51:20 to pass the current. The circuits so fast that the same electorate can

51:25 and pass the current at extremely fast . That it's only one electorate that's

51:31 a question. So to distinguish between plus influx and K. Plus

51:38 would you do it simply in a of time? Like, okay,

51:41 we're going to expect sodium influx. wouldn't set the reading for that.

51:44 how would you distinguish into in terms acquiring like the correct reading.

51:50 Uh you would actually, so if you didn't know anything and it

51:55 like you were Hodgkin and Huxley, would just change membrane potentials probably by

52:02 million volt at the commanding potential and would use different blockers for sodium channels

52:08 potassium channels until you finally saw a that was replicable. And it made

52:15 . You know. So I think that's that's how you do it.

52:19 maybe this will also answer your Uh what the voltage clamp will actually

52:26 or how it can be used. so Hodgkin and Huxley, Both of

52:32 , they won a noble Friday because already in medicine in 1963 for their

52:38 on the action. And what they is the use of all this

52:45 And on top this red trace here the electronics. It's a square wave

52:51 . It's a switch. It's a . Its command potential. I'm commanding

52:56 voltage to go to negative 26. commanding the voltage to go to zero

53:02 26. 52 positive 65 commanding this . What I'm gonna do is as

53:12 voltage client the potential, I'm gonna inward currents and outward currents. Remember

53:22 convention the positive values, nana emperors outward currents. And these are negative

53:28 values a million pair in this And they are inward currents. Uh

53:41 what's what's happening here is you're gradually this number in potential And you're climbing

53:51 -26. And what you're seeing, seeing the short inward current and green

53:58 here that is followed by a much and slower outward current. That's

54:04 And this is blue zone here. then you d polarize the membrane even

54:11 . You de polarize and client the potential at zero mila balls. And

54:15 seeing a much stronger inward current but still transient. You're also seeing much

54:22 outward current because the inward current here the sodium ions coming inside influx and

54:31 current was potassium ions leaving. So we de polarize more, there's more

54:39 current. Remember it's positive feedback with sodium, more deep polarization, more

54:43 channels open more deep polarization, more current. But as you de polarize

54:47 number and potential of these positive you're also driving the potassium current outward

54:55 that follows essentially. This is the potential is broken down into the inward

55:01 and outward current. Notice what happens positive 26 inward current starts decreasing Because

55:09 is coming closer to the equilibrium potential sodium positive 55 and this case is

55:16 52. That's why I said different . Will have a slightly different

55:20 positive 52, positive 55, positive noble value. But it's all basically

55:26 the same ballpark, depending on different and recordings. What happens is 52

55:35 , which is the equilibrium potential for . What happens to the inward

55:42 It's gone why? Because of the potential for sodium, There is no

55:47 current flux for sodium. So there's inward current flux ng but you still

55:52 very large outward current. Guess what if you cross over to the other

55:57 . You see this little blip This little blip is actually sodium current

56:03 reversed. So equilibrium potential value of on the other side, the current

56:09 starts flowing in the opposite direction. a lot of times this equilibrium potential

56:15 also referred to as reversal potential value the current reverse from outward to inward

56:21 to outward direction at the equilibrium potential beyond those values the same for potassium

56:28 is leaving the cell. But if drive the number and below equilibrium potential

56:32 potassium 100 million volts negative the potassium going to reverse its direction also.

56:41 now what you have is you have early component which is the inward component

56:47 the late component and only using the clamp where we able to tease out

56:54 only the individual inward versus outward sodium potassium but also the dynamics of the

57:02 the duration of these different cars. you can see that during the influx

57:08 phase of sodium you have multiple sodium open. They open and close very

57:15 . So each one of these traces and red uh color under the curve

57:22 the opening of a sodium channel, single sodium channel. And you have

57:26 sodium channels. You can see that all of them open at the same

57:31 once they open, they also close quickly. So they're only open for

57:36 millisecond or so. And that's the why the membrane potential doesn't reach the

57:42 potential for sodium during the d polarizing and the action potential. And if

57:48 some across these different channels that are you get this kind of a smooth

57:53 current responds here. That's the sum individual channels that are conducting sodium and

58:00 the outward side this is during the phase. You see this dash line

58:06 during the rising phase of the action during the rising phase of the action

58:11 that sodium channels that are opening. you look during the rising phase of

58:15 action potential, these two dash there is barely any potassium channels open

58:21 only at the very peak of the potential, you have the opening of

58:26 potassium channels. Each one of these is individual potassium channel opening. You

58:32 see very clearly. The difference is sodium channels of fast activating potassium channel

58:39 is delayed during the action potential. channels are fast and activating or their

58:47 is transient and the activity of potassium through potassium channels is prolonged. We

58:54 call it sustained. So transient versus or transient versus prolonged. So the

59:01 component of the action potential is the sodium currents. And the late component

59:09 is the falling phase of the action is the potassium, the flocks is

59:15 from inside of the cell going into outside of the cell And this is

59:22 clamp and without voltage clamp, we be able to demonstrate this experimentally.

59:27 wouldn't be able to confirm that the potential value for sodium that we calculated

59:33 positive 50 to a positive 55 is noted experimentally. And this was very

59:41 technique. So this technique now allows to isolate individual currents and with the

59:46 of different blockers and chemicals, we do really good job at isolating

59:53 very specific single currents of interest such sodium potassium and even more selective to

60:00 subtypes of sodium or potassium channels. . So yeah, um so this

60:18 different channel, like, like so like from the area that like

60:38 each one conducts a different right? there's a variability in each. So

60:57 amplitude is not going to change, duration is different. So, if

61:03 interested in total conductance, you're not interested in duration. You're interested in

61:09 . Once the channel is open, amplitude of the conductance is going to

61:13 the same. So if you have , it's multiplied on certain value of

61:18 . If you have 20 channels is towards certain value of conductance.

61:22 there is variability in biology and not channels will conduct the exact same number

61:28 arms. Not all channels will still the exact amount of time, but

61:34 the uh these advance there is thousands channels that are activated and it averages

61:43 to come out that the action potentials the same and it's reproducible in the

61:49 cell in the same amplitude over and and over and over with slight

61:54 Again, One action potential, maybe million balls. The next 1,

62:00 . The next 187. The next , 85 again, so there's gonna

62:04 slight variations. So um and this exactly the reason why you don't rely

62:14 on the calculations, but you actually the experiments and you can see that

62:20 substantial variability and you would just report with some sort of a standard

62:24 You know, there's an average time opening of sodium channel plus mine or

62:30 . Okay, But the amplitude is to be the same through these

62:36 supposed to be the same. So look at why sodium channels gloves and

62:41 because of the specific structure and sodium . Remember these channels that are participating

62:48 the action potential are gated by that means that voltage is going to

62:53 and close these channels. sodium channel four subunits. 1, 2,

63:01 , 4. Each subunit has six membrane segments. S 123456. The

63:13 loop robert Mckinnon's pore loop. The filter here, It's between five and

63:21 . That's five and S six As is a very interesting segment in this

63:28 . It has a lot of charge charge. So these are the amino

63:34 residues with positive charge and S four for voltage sensor portion of the

63:43 That means this is the portion of channel that is going to be sensitive

63:47 voltage. This is the portion of channel. Here is another illustration of

63:52 S. Four that is going to reacting to the changes in the

63:58 So this is the gating voltage The channel has gates, the gates

64:04 closed and the gates need to be and the gates are going to be

64:10 by voltage. And the way it's to happen is as there is this

64:18 charged amino acid residues they're actually attracted the negatively charged internal environment of the

64:31 memory. So you have this channel the gates closed. Has to gays

64:43 it has a voltage sensor is positively and you know that the inside of

64:50 num brain is negatively charged. So positively charged voltage sensor is attracted to

64:57 negative build up and is repelled by positive charge on the outside. But

65:06 the membrane starts d polarizing, if is a little bit of deep

65:12 this sensor we'll start getting repelled by charge that there's a positive charge.

65:20 up. This positive charge in the sensor is going to be repelled physically

65:27 it's going to move inside the channel the movement of this channel. So

65:34 by the charge voltage moving. This sensor will cause a confirmation a little

65:41 in the protein channel that caused the of the channel. Mhm. So

65:50 is voltage sensor. These are voltage channels. Yeah, there has to

66:02 deep polarization that's taking place optically in for that cell to generate an action

66:10 . And these deep polarization would come the synaptic inputs. And if there

66:15 enough of this deep polarization through synaptic inputs, then the enough positive charge

66:22 build up will start pushing the sensor . And as the sensor literally moves

66:29 being repelled through the state dimensional The two gates, the two sodium

66:35 open owned so the input, the positive charge build up would come from

66:43 positive synaptic inputs. And only if reaches that value of the threshold is

66:51 you will see enough positive charge and it's going to be very good enough

66:55 for it to to cause a conformational . So this is this is well

67:08 to this value right here. And remember that this you can have

67:14 polarization and you can have hyper These are synaptic inputs. And then

67:21 happens is they activate at this level synaptic inputs. If they're strong enough

67:29 they activate the voltage sensor and voltage sodium channels. Yeah. And that's

67:34 you have all our non response of action potential. What happens is that

67:48 a special kinetics of this channel and is fast activating and it opens

67:58 So it's fast opening. You can it actually has two gates, its

68:05 gate and this adam what we call activation gate, that's one of the

68:10 in which we think these two gates . If the there is enough deep

68:16 , the voltage sensor will slide upwards will open both of the gates.

68:21 as it opens, voted against this and chain swings outwards. And as

68:28 molten ascension keeps moving up through the , this causes another confirmation will change

68:35 this again, ball to come and the channel and now it's going to

68:42 inactivated. And in order for you go and to close the open

68:47 you actually have to hyper polarize the of potential. And with hyper

68:54 what's going to happen is the voltage is going to slide back down and

69:04 inactivation gate is going to move out the activation gates are going to

69:11 So basically there's enough voltage. This sensor is gonna pick it up cause

69:17 change opened both gates, but as as it opens both gates, one

69:21 them is opportunistic. And with this change of case says, I'm going

69:25 close it up right away and that's the sodium channels are open for a

69:32 short period of time transient because they inactivated. And that's another reason why

69:40 membrane potential doesn't reach equilibrium potential for is because of the inactivation not only

69:46 driving force decreasing, but the inactivation closed. So when it's hyper

70:06 that's that's what accounts for that blip we see with the potassium out flux

70:12 like one of the graphs that showed the N. A. Like this

70:21 . Yeah, this one here. a little different. It's only if

70:28 want to really positive potentials of Yeah. Yeah, but your I

70:34 it's really good good questions and good of thinking. So uh So I

70:42 that there's more information, there's more plots action potentials and back propagating

70:50 So we're doing pretty well actually on that we're going to cover for this

70:55 . But because we're out of time when I come back on first

71:00 I will go over one more The action potential dynamics, the kinetics

71:07 incapacity channel. If you're a little confused about anything, don't hesitate.

71:12 welcome questions. I may have missed question in the back. I apologize

71:17 you don't I'm keeping its next session the great um Yeah, and then

71:24 have our review in a week from . So we'll be able to cover

71:28 of the material we're supposed to cover this exam. Have a good

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