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00:04 get started. Sorry. So I all the lectures up. I'm guessing

00:16 probably downloaded the PDFs and can follow . So going to start with some

00:30 deconstruction, I call it. Uh we're gonna talk about the sequence photography

00:37 alluvial systems sort of with some general , some of this would be a

00:41 of repeat from, from our early . So I'll review that stuff very

00:47 . Mhm. But let's start with diagram. So this is a diagram

01:02 Peter friend was a was the sediment at Cambridge University back in the 60s

01:09 70s I guess. And this is sort of a general diagram. It's

01:15 kind of diagram that I learned when was an undergraduate and even a graduate

01:21 . And what it shows is a diagram. And on the surface you've

01:26 different types of streams. So you've a strongly meandering stream on the

01:31 you've got alluvial fans on the left a. And then be you've got

01:35 streams and see you've got a lot curiosity stream. And if you focus

01:40 block diagram, B and D. implication is that if you have braided

01:49 , you produce big buckets of whereas if you have a strong and

01:55 stream, you produce buckets of mud ribbons of sand. Okay, so

02:00 idea behind this diagram is that the thing you need to know to predict

02:04 large scale strategic graffiti flew real systems the planned form of the river.

02:09 assumption is that the platform of the particularly braided versus meandering controls whether or

02:15 you've got a mug dominated political system a sand and gravel dominated political

02:23 Now, here's a rather different diagram a book actually on braided rivers,

02:28 this is a general diagram that shows stacking of channel belts, those the

02:35 things. Okay. And everything that's in the box, we would assume

02:40 mud. Okay. And from left right, it's got low channel migration

02:49 the left and high channel migration on right. What's channel migration? What

02:55 mean by channel migration? Yes, money. Yeah, that's always right

03:11 say it. Right. And so I'm if this is my hand,

03:17 your hands like this and show me river that's that's migrating a lot.

03:24 are you going to do? and not migrating at all?

03:30 So the more that migrates the white the sand body. Very simple

03:34 Right now in the front we've got revulsion and then in the back of

03:41 mother we have high revulsion revulsion. , that's not the sinuous city.

03:53 what what does the word of vulture ? You know? So avulsion refers

04:06 a river switching its position. So once again, let's put our

04:09 here now a vulture position. And it again, I've also again,

04:18 , now migrate and then a pulse then of course. Right.

04:27 so when you have also the river put the river in a different position

04:32 the floodplain. Okay? And if river switches position upstream, it can

04:37 up in a very different position We call that regional adoption.

04:42 Sometimes a river can adults out of course and rejoin. That's sometimes called

04:46 local avulsion. And sometimes in a of all, she can occur all

04:52 one and sometimes it can occur at points upstream and downstream. If it's

04:58 at one point we call it, call that node revulsion. And

05:06 you know, if the rivers here then it switches that position and then

05:10 switches to that position, that would at a nodal avulsion. Okay.

05:18 from that point, a river flowed and then it switched to that position

05:25 then it switched to this position. . Uh that would be uh random

05:32 in words that the vultures occurring at points on the river. And if

05:36 river is flowing in this position and it switch flips, flips out and

05:42 back to where it used to We would call that a local avulsion

05:49 out comes back now and then on on the vertical axis we've got

06:04 Okay, if you don't like the aggravation, just the word subsidence in

06:08 and whatever is causing the flood plain to build up. Right? Usually

06:12 if the basement is falling then the will build up. If the base

06:16 stable, there will be no Right, okay. so now we've

06:21 three parameters. Okay, the degree which the basin is siding, which

06:26 the aggregation of the floodplain degradation is partly controlled by settlement supply. We've

06:33 the rate at which the channel is and we've got the frequency in which

06:37 avulsion, avulsion. Okay, so look at a scenario in the

06:46 That's weird. That's better. Some I penn was going all over the

07:16 , so let's look at the front . Okay, so now we've got

07:21 basin that's that's maybe subsided quite but the river is neither migrating nor

07:28 in that case, the river just verdict. Now that's not a that's

07:32 a that's not particularly common scenario, that's what you would expect.

07:37 In contrast in the right hair, base is still subsiding rapidly.

07:42 the channel is involved in very but it's migrating along. So you've

07:46 a river that's migrating on a base falling, you get a nice big

07:51 cluster of channel belts. Okay, look over here, we have the

07:58 where the rivers exulting frequently and it's rapidly, so it's producing wide channel

08:04 , but because it's evolving all the and the floodplain is signing the river

08:09 over here when it comes back to it used to be floodplain is accumulated

08:14 . So now you get a bunch isolated wide uh channel belts with a

08:19 of floodplains. Okay, um who like to tell me which of these

08:27 produces the most amalgamated continuous reservoir, scenario would be the best and

08:41 Right. Mhm. Yeah. So least number of compartments and the

08:50 the biggest stack of amalgamated channel belts stuck together. For more information.

09:03 . So that would be this Yeah, Okay, and Maybe that

09:13 there, maybe not much, you , a lot of migration, you're

09:18 a nice big wide chat about, know, and the basic subsiding is

09:22 get a big blob of amalgamated right? Which would be the worst

09:28 , which would be the worst do you think you're drilling?

09:31 you find oil in the sandstone and go like, oh my God,

09:35 100 sand stones, and they're all by shales. Yeah, high frequency

09:44 bullshit. Right, I 5%. much? Exactly? Right.

09:53 Okay. Okay, so we've so what you can see is we've

09:58 we've now this diagram, we have probable net to gross net to

10:03 I just mean that sand to gross . Right? So, essentially,

10:06 share ratio, right? You this would be a lot of,

10:11 lot of sand, sorry, a of mud with a few sands,

10:14 would be mostly sand and very little , Right? Um And what words

10:20 on this slide, What words are on the slide that we usually use

10:25 describe rivers, we go back to slide, nana is not here.

10:32 else is missing graded, right? the two words that we've always thought

10:37 as the most important to describe rivers missing on this diagram. We got

10:43 ah now you guys would probably taught little bit more advanced rivers than your

10:49 were. But to this day I to oil companies and I hear geologist

10:53 about, well, this is a , extremely me an extreme what they

10:56 mean is this, is this a net ecosystem amalgamated? Isn't loan it

11:00 growth? And their assumption is that controlled by the plan view,

11:04 the stream. And yet now we're , no, it's controlled by the

11:09 rate, it's controlled by the avulsion , it's controlled by the subsidence

11:14 Okay, now then you can go , okay, well that's great.

11:18 controls the vault the avulsion frequency? might control that? Okay, what

11:30 ? So the greater the floodplain might that. What else might control

11:35 Yeah, but the number of flooding , ah The sinuous city might control

11:41 if you have a single threat, stream, you know? And the

11:45 is going around the corner, it blow out as a crevasse splay and

11:51 might just, it just might, might just produce an oxbow lake or

11:54 produce an avulsion, right? To braided streams don't necessarily have those big

12:00 loops. So it's possible that that streams don't impulse as frequently as meandering

12:08 , you know what one of the research topics influential systems is right

12:14 that's true. Ah, I wouldn't that. And I'm leading you

12:21 we've just identified a big problem. . What do you think? What

12:26 you think people are trying to understand how rivers behave? Oh, that's

12:37 of interest. Yeah, it's right the slide here. Exactly, right

12:48 an avulsion, right? Everyone's trying figure out what controls revulsion.

12:54 What's, what's the importance of flood versus slope changes versus, you

13:00 details the floodplain, whether it's muddy sandy. Now, it's possible that

13:07 so McDonough's what controls whether a river braided and meandering the gradient and the

13:16 . Right? So, and gradient discharge may control things like sediment supply

13:23 avulsion frequency. So, you there there may be some link between

13:28 plan view of the river and its , but it's certainly not as simple

13:33 these models would suggest. Okay, , so part of the setup and

13:38 river systems, you know, and is a bit more, I

13:41 it's photography, but it's also just physics of how rivers behave.

13:52 we talked quite a bit about equilibrium in our first meeting. And we

13:58 out that rivers will commonly have a area and then that will become

14:04 they go towards the shore line and not uncommon that because asthma Dennis correctly

14:10 out steep graded rivers tend to be and, and lower graded rivers tend

14:15 be meandering. However, when you tribute of systems, in other

14:21 when you, when you're in a gradient part of the system commonly you're

14:24 water and then you go to until get to the trunk stream, which

14:29 higher discharge, the tributaries of the stream discharges the water right? Qw

14:43 , you're the tributaries are collecting water feeding into a big trunk stream,

14:47 which has the higher discharge the tributaries the trump street? Of course the

14:53 street, right? And then it distributive. And so you get smaller

14:57 and big channel, smaller channels. . And so and of course if

15:02 trunk seems big enough, but the discharge may keep it braided even though

15:06 gradient slope. Right? Anyway, we talked about these equilibrium profiles.

15:14 today we're sort of focused on the river profile and you know, that

15:18 drop down if if mountains are being or it can lift off if mountains

15:23 uplifting. And of course sometimes this uh can be connected to the continental

15:31 and of course if that gets you get a steeper slope that's a

15:37 point and uh that can cause the to speed up. And then we

15:44 talk about a bit about choke points nick points. Um This would be

15:49 good point for you to look at . You know, when I show

15:52 diagram twice in a class, you , it's important, right? If

15:57 important, it could be something that might find on an exam tomorrow or

16:02 next week. Right? So this of choke points and nick point is

16:07 , but because it controls where rivers size and where deposition occurs, so

16:13 tends to occur associated with nick a deposition tends to occur with choke

16:20 . Now, we also talked about idea that that there is a window

16:27 zone in which rivers are either either up or dropping down. John Holbrook's

16:33 that the preservation space and and that that that is constantly moving depending on

16:40 river has more water, less more sediment, less less sediment and

16:44 or not the land is lifting up dropping down okay. And he also

16:49 out that that that the president preservation can shift seaward if a delta,

16:54 grades or sea level drops or sea rises, it can change the point

16:58 which the river is granted to. . And so the green, the

17:04 zones on this diagram represent the new space as a buttress shift seaward like

17:10 would occur if there was a regression the shore line or if there was

17:15 gradation of the delta such that the was now flowing over a longer

17:20 Okay. And obviously we've talked about you have rise of sea level then

17:28 the rivers will lift up and they they moved they actually move may move

17:32 if sediment supply is insufficient to keep and of course if there's a cultural

17:36 fall, river's can degrade. Mhm. So mike bloom sort of

17:47 out that most of this is very here, but he points out that

17:50 continental shelf for the most part is at low stands, rivers run across

17:57 and flooded a high status. So when you've got glacial maxima, the

18:01 continental shelves are surface over which rivers flowing. Okay. And so he

18:07 out that most shelves, the grading actually the old long profile of the

18:15 . Now, when sea level Okay, you'll get a new coastal

18:20 . Okay. And the online limit the new pro coastal prison, which

18:24 this green, yellow and gray wedge . Okay. That that Okay,

18:31 upstream downstream length of that wedge is to be related to the magnitude of

18:35 level rise and the slope over which occurs. Right, So a small

18:39 of sea level rise just haven't got much distance to get a new alluvial

18:44 , but you've got a big sea rise and a very low radio claim

18:48 that wedge can jump hundreds of kilometers and it can get bigger and

18:53 The lower the great Okay, all , now we like to talk a

19:05 about boundaries and obviously, you a critical boundary is the shore line

19:12 separates land from sea, but in of shallow marine or Deltek systems,

19:20 you'll have, you know, the river and that may or may not

19:22 incised. And the point at which river is no longer confined, it

19:28 start to pulse. Okay. and in addition to a pulsing,

19:34 may get more than one channel active one time downstream. And those become

19:38 we call, distribute terry channels. there's some question of big deltas as

19:42 whether the Nile has two big distributor and some people say, well actually

19:47 river's just hasn't quite decided whether it to be the Rosetta or the Damietta

19:52 . Right. Uh Some rivers have of multi simultaneous distributor t channels.

19:58 deltas have a few at any So we we we subdivide the delta

20:05 into an upper delta plane, which an entirely alluvial environment and a lower

20:11 plane, which is the marine influence of the system. Okay. The

20:16 between the upper and lower delta plane called the bay line and it's given

20:20 name because it marks the language limit brackish or brackish water bays essentially marks

20:26 language limit of saltwater incursion. of course the custom deltas don't have

20:33 salt water. So there's no such as a no salt water and no

20:38 . So the customer, the customer don't have a baseline uh seaward of

20:46 shore line, you get an offshore called that the delta front and then

20:50 pro delta. Okay, so one the questions is, you know,

20:55 kind of faces changes do you get a result of these moving boundaries?

20:59 baseline is may not be the most boundaries. You know, we tend

21:04 think of the shorelines the most important , but you can get a lot

21:07 sand seaward, the shorelines. So terms of reservoir, you know,

21:10 lots of potential for sand seaward of shore line because the shore face is

21:16 is below is below the shore Right? That's the offshore area that's

21:21 agitated by waves, produces nice sandy . Okay, now the bay line

21:27 the area where tides can influence Okay, the tide goes in,

21:33 stops deposits, a layer of the tide goes out, deposit,

21:38 stops, deposits, a layer of , the tide moves in, moves

21:42 more sand stops and deposits a layer clay. And this happens every

21:46 sometimes twice a day. So tidal tend to have little clay drapes all

21:51 time. And that makes very hetero reservoirs. Right? So title systems

21:56 particularly interest to oil companies because they be complicated to get the oil out

22:01 because it's clear everywhere, Right? because the high because of the high

22:05 to tide, you can have very clean sand in between. So the

22:09 that that that Baylon is of interest that can define the point at which

22:13 get a lot of clay drapes in in your poor alec reservoirs.

22:20 So here's an example of the po in Italy. And you can see

22:26 is a distributor rechannel here, there a distributor very channel here. There's

22:34 there, another one there, there's one coming off here and you can

22:40 these plumes of sediment that marked the terminal ends of the distributor distributor

22:46 So this is where the the distributors spewing their sediment into the sea.

22:51 a wave rework delta. And you see that there are these these lagoons

22:56 in these bays bounded by spits and can see a difference in the color

23:01 well. That probably indicates saltwater tolerant . And so the green line in

23:07 delta marks the baseline. Okay, , tidal effects can propagate if a

23:17 is flowing downstream. Okay, remember talked about the the uh my brain's

23:26 dead. The back wall, we about the backwater. Don't remember what

23:33 backwater is, Right, So it's depth of river divided by the

23:43 Okay. Um Yeah, so in Mississippi would be let's say 50 m

24:00 divided by point zero zero zero So that's going to be 123,

24:14 or five. Yeah, Is that ? So it's going to be

24:34 should be about 500 to 1000 Okay, Now the baseline is the

24:40 range divided by the slope. So the Gulf of Mexico, the tidal

24:44 is about 1.5 m. And so means tidal effects can propagate 30 km

24:49 the river. That's obviously much less the backwater effect. Okay, but

24:55 you've got a small river and high range, then sometimes the the bay

25:00 could be bigger than the back Right? So that's of interest.

25:05 is the Indus Delta. Two images the, in the photograph on the

25:10 , you can see that the darker represents the salt tolerant mangroves and the

25:16 green represents freshwater plants in this. the satellite image, you can see

25:22 extensive wetland and you see all these features. Those are tidal channels.

25:27 you'll see that they look like you've a big channel at the, at

25:31 seaward end and it breaks up into whole bunch of channels at the land

25:34 end and that's the type of water in and breaking up into a series

25:38 tidal channels. And you've got to at this carefully. This is the

25:44 channel that's linked to the river. , all these other channels are tidal

25:51 and have nothing to do with the at all. Now we talked about

25:57 backwater. So, okay, there's Mississippi Uh 40 m divided by .00005

26:04 800 km. The Rhine is still pretty big river. Uh the slope

26:10 quite a bit lower. So it's a backwater of 100 and 20 kilometers

26:15 the backwaters. The point at which river, the base of the

26:19 sorry, the backwaters, the point which the base of the river is

26:21 sea level. So if you've got level rises and falls or you

26:27 or even tidal effects, that's going affect the river up to the

26:34 And uh and that, that has big control on things like migration and

26:42 . Okay. Which I'll show you just a second. So we showed

26:48 diagram before. So we've got the would limit of saltwater. That's

26:53 that's the bay line. Tidal effects propagate further up depending on the scale

26:59 the tides. And of course the effect, as I said, is

27:03 water depth of flow depth of river by the slope and that may be

27:10 than the than the title backwater or less depending on, depending on the

27:16 range and the size and scale of river. I think I drew this

27:23 last week, but kind of discussed for you. So here's the Mississippi

27:32 there's it's backwater leg. So it's to 1000 m. Okay. And

27:37 dash line represents the point at which base the channel is below sea

27:42 Okay, that's about 750 km Now, the blue line represents the

27:48 of the water when the river is in flood. So that would be

27:52 stage and the yellow line or yellowish , orange line represents the top of

27:59 river when it's the flood. And can kind of see there's an interesting

28:02 . The top of the water has be always at sea level. You

28:06 , you can't get a the waterfall freshwater into saltwater, right, Doesn't

28:10 any sense. So, of when the river is in flood,

28:14 interesting things occur. You know, , the water is pinned to that

28:20 . Try it again, You can't any further seaward and flood. So

28:23 whole river can lift up and that's to, it's interestingly, it causes

28:29 lot of scouring in this area here all of a sudden the river's lifting

28:34 , but it can't lift up at seaward end. So that forces it

28:38 cut down in the most seaward Right? So my students, uh

28:45 wu that is PhD at Rice University went into, into the outcrops looking

28:51 evidence of excess scours as rivers get to the sea because the backwater

28:58 The river is kind of kind of a, you know, it's kind

29:00 like a shovel. You know, there's there's actually a lot of weight

29:03 put it as the river lifts up it causes the river to want to

29:06 down in the in the in the . Word part because it can't lift

29:10 top up. Right. It's impossible lift up what let's see fortress.

29:22 , exactly. I started an example of of of the river uh shifting

29:28 in its buffer profile. Okay. the buttresses facts right now. What

29:35 blended and others. Ah There's Jeff who did the work on the

29:42 And so what this is showing is belt with channel belt with versus

29:52 Okay, so that's the that's the dots. Right? That's telling us

30:03 uh language. So on the bottom is the is the normalized backwater

30:10 So that would be the the actual divided by the back water lake.

30:16 at one would be 77 50 km upstream, divided by the background limit

30:23 km. That's one okay .5 would half of 750s. That would be

30:30 my math here. Uh 325. of them anyway. Um No,

30:40 not right, is it? three and 25. Okay. Um

30:48 Mhm. So I love this And it's it's because it's it's it

30:54 the point that I'm trying to make people trying to figure out what the

30:56 controls Flavius photography? So what what what they realized is. So the

31:02 line represents the migration break, that's migration rate, right? So you

31:06 how the river migrates aggressively? Ah know at about certainly above the backwater

31:14 the river is going crazy. It sort of drops migrates a little

31:19 less at about 1.25 aggressively around a around the back water distance. And

31:28 it gets lower and lower and lower towards the shore line, the the

31:34 leandro when it stops migrate. So channel belts are getting narrower and narrower

31:39 that's exactly what you see with the window. The channel belts are getting

31:44 and narrower. Right? So the belt with divided by thickness is plummeting

31:53 we get to the to the backwater . That makes all sorts of predictions

31:57 what child belt should look like in strata, graphic wedge. Right.

32:02 you're looking at the classic wedge, know, the the channels at the

32:06 end should be now the channel And then as you go vertically up

32:11 the photography, as you move into more proximal part of the system,

32:16 should expect to see the channel belts get wider. Right? And and

32:20 you're in the lower back water you might expect narrow channel belts,

32:24 they might dig quite deep. So, a diagram like this makes

32:28 sorts of predictions about things you want know which is what, what are

32:32 dimensions of channel belts? And they to these things like uh you

32:38 they're relating to things like the backwater . You go, okay, but

32:42 the backward limit again? How do calculate that nature system? Where is

32:45 ? Right. So the baseline is by the slope, the tidal

32:53 And of course over longer scale sea rises and falls. The backwater length

32:59 primarily controlled by the slope in the , but it's independent tidal range,

33:05 there is a title backwater. Um of course the knowledge of backwater Bay

33:10 limits can predict width of channel the depth of channel belts, how

33:16 title faces entitled mud drapes. There in a given system and other key

33:22 of the faces. None of this particularly sequence data graphically oriented. But

33:28 know, I mean part of this is to give you the key information

33:32 to walk, controls the limits and of settlement bodies. Right. Some

33:37 it has to do with photography. other other has to do with

33:40 With these. With these, With boundaries. But of course sequence photography

33:46 also, you know, how to shift through geological time as a function

33:50 the controlling parameters. And how is expressed in terms of a correlate able

33:55 or a feature that you could So when you're doing your assignments,

33:58 might you might think about this and , is there any difference in the

34:03 of the of the of the of sentiment bodies. I'm I'm interpreting based

34:08 where in the classic wedge you are these kinds of ideas I'm putting up

34:12 you predictive tools now in this room now we have a series of things

34:27 up on the tables and these are for students to measure exactly. And

34:38 , what's the lowest, what's the angle that they could measure here?

34:57 say, let's say you're just using standard Brunton compass. Right?

35:00 what's the, you know, you're to measure the dip of something,

35:04 ? What would be the lowest step feel comfortable measure or when you,

35:09 you wrote your angles down what what of, you know, let's say

35:11 bed was dipping. You know, would you measure the dip of

35:15 Of that bed there? Yeah. , yep. Yes, I do

35:34 you. It's a song before. , so you, you, you

35:45 like that to be say 35° Okay. 30 or 35°. Right.

35:52 anybody like to do better than About 35.76231. Would you be happy

36:00 that? Okay, awesome. Would be happy with that number? I

36:10 what's the smallest? What? So You can measure one degree,

36:14 ? What about .1° 0.01°. What about . Okay, so what's that?

36:25 , so the precision of the instrument , is, you know, I

36:30 ? And I've got my little silver , you can barely see even one

36:32 . Right? You know? so rivers flow over over slopes that

36:39 be measured with a bunch of compass they're too small. Right. And

36:43 , you know, how do we these low slopes in ancient sedimentary

36:47 Can't use a Brunton compass. Right there are things like the manic,

36:54 manic demanding equation, which if you the debt of a river and the

36:59 , you can calculate the velocity. there are ways you can estimate the

37:03 independent of slope. And and if know the depth of the river,

37:06 can estimate what the philosophy must have . If you know the grain

37:10 you can calculate the shear stress. you know the shear stress and the

37:14 . You can back calculate the So there are ways to get a

37:17 slope using paleo hydraulic analysis. And there's also a photographic techniques.

37:26 . Have to measure it. I'm , you know, to a first

37:32 . You know, if if a fills up only it's not multi

37:36 then you can assume that Now the of it is there's a channel,

37:46 ? Obviously four. You know, they're Okay. So what's the depth

37:56 ? one m. What's the depth ? seven m. What's the depth

38:01 ? nine m. So what's the the channel again? Right? Now

38:08 you have a well, log the log might just hit the channel

38:13 Now if you have an outcrop, clips like we have in Utah.

38:17 can see the entire channel form so can get the uh Right so yeah

38:22 depth is a bit of a pig you know there's bank, full channel

38:25 , there's mean bank, full channel . There's towel wag depth. The

38:28 would be the deepest part of the but that might be only local

38:32 Um There could be confluence cara So I mean you know there's lots

38:36 different depths and and the river will a different depth at low stage versus

38:40 flood stage. So not a simple . Okay, so here is the

38:50 . Okay and this is an outcrop . And ah have I been through

38:57 with you before? No, we looked at this yet. Right.

39:02 this unit is let me draw So what is that? That's almost

39:10 . A. And then from here here. D. And then are

39:26 then ap and then the then it back to a here is a

39:49 What are these two here? You that? Right? What's 12

40:02 Did you see 12? Yeah, what are the paris sequences doing?

40:15 . And that's what letter or Retro gradation. Right? Um 12

40:30 11 is what P. And From to 11. There's the roll over

40:46 then it's way out here then it down there. So what's that

41:07 What's the letter? So it's Cause its degradation along down stepping dropping

41:14 . D. D. D. . Right then it kind of lifts

41:17 again and shifts back and forth. then once you get in these younger

41:23 of sequences now you start to see channel belts and sizing and see how

41:28 students drawn little channels emphasizing its multi . Okay, so those are the

41:36 , successions. You guys did a job. So we've got we started

41:41 with a largely a with a bit P. Then a little drop than

41:45 are then ap big D. Then went a R. P R an

41:54 D. And then another degradation than pr little presentation, another R.

42:02 . D. And so on and forth. So those are the accommodations

42:07 from that cross section. Now the thing I thought is wait a

42:13 I've got two incised Valleys here and two black lines just represent. And

42:20 I've hung it on a lower Angela, see lower datum and now

42:25 something going on here, it's probably around the bend. I'm getting a

42:28 of strike there, it's not a dip section. So because obviously the

42:32 can't go uphill. Right so you think of that at the cross

42:37 Maybe having a little thought in But you know I thought what what's

42:43 elevation drop into the base of the that will be the base of the

42:47 part of the buffer zone, the deepest point the river ever

42:52 And so that elevation, so the drops 12 m over a distance of

42:57 km. And that gives me a of About 10 of the -3,

43:04 .0009. And and it's pretty consistent You know, pretty consistent. So

43:14 is 30 m over 21 km. was .0014. So again about .001

43:21 both. Uh And then I also calculated the actual slope of the top

43:29 And again, a slope of about , calculate the slope of the degradation

43:35 drop Uh and that was maybe twice steep .002. So now, of

43:43 the river is sinuous. So the line length, the river might be

43:48 than the straight line distance of elevation . Right? So the slope of

43:53 meander river could be would be lower the straight line distance from an upstream

43:56 downstream position at any rate. Uh know, that's actually pretty steep slope

44:02 a river, Right? The Mississippi 10 : -5. The the Ryan

44:06 10 to minus four and the fairness the monastery and they're quite gravelly

44:11 The gravel never quite gets the but the gravel stops pretty close to

44:15 shore line, the gravel, sand gravel, sand transition. So this

44:20 an example of how we can get slopes an ancient system just using a

44:24 graphic method of measurement. We could then look at other harry hydraulic methods

44:30 compare. Okay, on size with , you see the platform,

44:34 So you can just you can see actual elevation drop on the surface.

44:38 only issue is if it's been tilted or subsided. Okay. Mhm.

44:47 the tidal range ah we don't know tidal range in the Faron. We

44:55 it's probably about less than a couple meters. Okay. However, you

45:02 , here's the shore line, right , sandstone and this blue and and

45:08 or teal faces are beautiful faces. so if we sort of look at

45:14 width again, that's a That's a km scale bar there. So it

45:20 like, you know from the shore , the land would limit the shore

45:25 to the on lap on lap limit that of that Laguna faces. Um

45:31 , you know, not quite 10 . So I said with the tidal

45:36 is the, is that the the line would be the tidal range divided

45:46 the slope. And if we know baseline by looking at the on lap

45:50 of of the bay fill faces, can rearrange that equation to estimate the

45:54 range. So it's 10,000 m or km Multiply the slope, which is

46:02 zero three And that gives us a range of three m. That's probably

46:08 bit high, but probably you just some transgression in there. And that

46:12 that the width of the, of bay line is a little bit wider

46:15 the actual limit of the bay line you know, it's the faces of

46:20 . Right? So that the belt sediment is wider than the actual title

46:24 . Makes it makes sense. the fair and backwater limit is a

46:30 kilometers. Mississippi is a few 100 so a big, big difference.

46:43 , and here's the fairer. So a backwater limit of a few kilometers

46:50 and Sandstone in Canada. I worked maybe 30, 40 km and so

46:54 and so forth. Okay, so shorelines aqui boundary, but bay lines

47:00 backwaters are also important. They have controls on the behavior of rivers and

47:05 ultimately controls the width and depth of channel belts. Okay. They also

47:10 the land would limit of marine That's critical if you're trying to find

47:14 gravel sand transition or the limit at you get a lot of mud interspersed

47:18 your reservoirs because of tidal mud Okay. And these backwater effects are

47:25 big reason, you know, when think about a river, it's the

47:29 is flowing as fast as it But the bed load is moving at

47:33 10th of the speed, You the grains are rolling pebble by pebble

47:37 slowly. so the bed load moves in these doomed bed forms and bars

47:43 they move much, much, much fast than the water the water carries

47:48 called the wash loader, suspended load fast as the water, right?

47:52 the bed load moves much more Mhm. As a cold and certain

47:56 never gets to the shore line. ? So it's common that you'll see

48:00 river with boulders in it and then go downstream and not there's not a

48:03 to be found. And it's not the grains are getting are being,

48:06 not because the grains are being rolled become smaller, the big brains just

48:10 being moved moved downstream past the past certain point and it's because the river

48:18 its gradient so it just loses its stress to move grains of a certain

48:22 , right? All this is particularly where the course faces in a

48:26 wedge, you know, or in sedimentary basin and that's what you're exploring

48:31 . Okay. And of course, know, if the slope changes from

48:39 to minus one, Sorry, if slope changes from 10 to the -5

48:45 attend the -4, that's an order magnitude increase in slope, it's still

48:49 very low slope in the absolute But boy, you know, a

48:55 we might think is a fairly small in tilt can really change the way

48:59 behaves okay. And you know, one of the projects that we thought

49:06 doing, I was looking at growth in the gulf and looking at three

49:10 . Seismic data sets to see when cross the growth fault. Do they

49:14 their plan view as a result of on the growth fault? Because that

49:17 change the slope dramatically? Right, . I'm gonna finish off with a

49:28 few more slides there, maybe 10 slides to go. So Back in

49:33 early 90s, there was some big conferences to sort of pull together some

49:40 the thinking about sequence photography and keith and his former supervisor, Pete

49:46 put together this nice paper and I a PG or Js are on non

49:51 sequence photography on the right. They of show the classic paris sequence stacking

49:58 , uh and the associated sea level . Okay, so at high level

50:03 got a grading, accommodations succession, sea levels rising, they've got a

50:08 or recreational accommodation succession repair seeking set stage, they've got degradation and at

50:15 stand, they've got procreation to aggregation a slight uh back stepping of paris

50:22 . And then on the left, indicate what the rivers might be

50:26 So at falling stage, when when level is negative and accommodation is

50:32 the rivers will be tending to in , then at low stand, the

50:37 will tend to fill and as sea reaches its peak, you may start

50:43 get tati influenced alluvial systems and And ultimately, you know, if

50:52 river is confined in a valley, we'll have my computer's one side the

50:57 the other, you know, there's limited window or area for the river

51:01 the river to migrate the balls. once it's no longer the valley it

51:07 go anywhere, which means it's not to be there most of the

51:10 So the river is over there, going to accumulate here? Buddy

51:15 Right, so they point out that stand because there's a much wider area

51:21 the river to occupy. Two things . The actual accommodation increases by orders

51:26 magnitude is simply way more space because way more area that the systems are

51:32 longer confined to the valley and that two things happen. A the systems

51:36 to backstab because they simply can't maintain position at the coast and the system

51:42 tends to become much muddier. the other thing on this diagram is

51:47 sort of imply that high stand tracks are characterized by high sinuous city

51:53 real channels, which is sort of a another word for a meandering

52:00 whereas they suggest that that at falling , you tend to get Los nur

52:08 higher gradient rivers again, which they're to avoid using the word braided,

52:14 because I was kind of a little out of favor when they wrote this

52:17 this paper essentially, that's what they . Now in this diagram, they

52:23 , they have sort of a a through rivers and a dipped you through

52:27 shorelines. Andrew Mallory just stuck the together. And so he's got the

52:33 boundary with him. Incised valley, channel belts in the valley les amalgamation

52:40 you go into the late low stand then retrograde ng shorelines and more isolate

52:46 channel belts as you go into transgressive tracked. Uh Typically the water table

52:52 rise at the maximum flooding surface. a propensity for coals in the floodplain

52:57 the times of highest sea levels and the system turns around and begins to

53:01 grade as you move into the high systems tracked and as a combination

53:06 you tend to get an increased clustering channel belts date. Notice the word

53:12 and braid is not mentioned on this . Okay, although it is implied

53:17 this one, then john Van Wagner his version with sort of a single

53:24 profile, showing amalgamated channel belts associate his low stam's and then isolated channel

53:33 associate with his transgressive systems tracked. and he also points out that low

53:41 systems are typically characterized by multistory sand and uh if you can read that

53:52 rivers. I whereas the the high and transgressive systems tracks are characterized by

54:01 bonds and point bars are produced by kind of streams meandering streams.

54:09 so once again, you now you've this idea that low stands abraded and

54:13 stands are meandering. So once again got this braided meandering dichotomy entering into

54:20 sequence data graphic concepts. Ah right Marriott in Britain did work on paleo

54:28 and they said wait a minute you are all focused on the channel

54:32 What about the police calls? How they change throughout the sequence? So

54:36 said look, so in order to this diagram, you've got a low

54:42 transgressive and Hiestand systems tracked. The vertical lines represent the soils and

54:48 longer the line the more mature the . Okay. They point out that

54:52 sequence boundaries tend to have the most apparently salt because those surfaces are high

54:57 dry for the longest. Okay, the length that the depth of soil

55:03 to decrease towards the valley and the margin is a place of net

55:07 You don't get the soils in the margin. It's really kind of the

55:10 flew away from the actual side of valley that tend to have the deepest

55:15 the modes which are police cells. you should go to the transcription transgressive

55:20 tracked. You get these HYDROmorphone or more wet soils so coldly faces which

55:27 kind of similar to what. Andrew . Said, you get your your

55:31 floodplains and your propensity for calls in transgressive systems tracked. And as you

55:37 up the diagram, you know you from HYDROmorphone soils to less HYDROmorphone

55:43 And finally as you go into the the high stand systems tracked, the

55:47 got more and more mature with time you've got less accommodation and so the

55:52 exposed for longer. Anyway, so should they should have predicted a systematic

56:00 of parenting saul's as a function of data, graphic position. Okay,

56:08 then two more topics and then we'll this lecture. Um This is another

56:18 paper. Yeah. And again remember question I asked, what are people

56:26 avulsion? How does evolution control Graphic architecture. So this is a

56:33 that lets hey Jack and her former , paul Heller and Ben sheets who

56:39 with chris paola worked on. And Dagenham you've got a lower series of

56:49 . The orange represents little crevasse plays the margin and gray would represent your

56:54 shales. Let's say look we've got basin that's subsiding slowly. Okay,

57:00 not much combinations being generated. That us kind of on the bottom of

57:09 diagram here, right, low, level of subsidence. Not much aggravation

57:18 then the basis until we get a of amalgamation of channel belts and caress

57:22 . Then there's an overall change, the basin starts to subside more

57:26 And so all of a sudden you've more floodplain. Unless channel belt,

57:30 an example of a change in the viel stacking that's controlled by a basin

57:34 change in subsidence? Then we have characteristic and size valley model. We've

57:39 the size valleys and mature penny And you get clustering of the channel

57:44 in the valleys and the area outside valleys that represents high, high high

57:49 have more isolated channels and and a of floodplains then. And see they

57:56 a third hypothesis, which is that channels may experience random avulsion. I

58:08 it looks like a braided river, just imagine how it pops out and

58:11 back again. They said that can produce a cluster in the channels that

58:18 a lot of local avulsion going And so they said, you

58:23 is it possible that you can get clusters that aren't related to being sitting

58:29 the incised valleys are related to changes substance in the floodplain, but are

58:34 to this, this avulsion process. once again, investigating the role of

58:39 in control and channel clusters. So looked at two data sets. One

58:46 photo mosaics of the E CN ferris in Wyoming and black is channel belt

58:52 as floodplain. And you can clearly what looked like clusters right? There's

58:59 a cluster here, There is a here? Maybe a cluster there uh

59:10 here and they want to know, these just is it just completely random

59:15 ? Or is it random avulsion? is it local avulsion and local avulsion

59:20 produce a cluster? That's not Then the other dataset they used was

59:27 chris paola flume experiments. You these were bent sheet. Sorry,

59:35 I think he's still doing it on the pale of flu. And so

59:38 notice that the uh this is about couple of centimeters of photography. This

59:45 very this is a small experimental Black is the channel belt and white

59:49 the floodplain sediments. Then they did deal statistics. Okay, perform what's

59:56 a crescent function. I'm not expert statistics and but just to illustrate how

60:02 works, uh is completely random. is obviously not random and she has

60:12 clustering, that's not random. So the crescent function basically plots a so

60:22 bottom axis is essentially normalized distance. . And in the random model,

60:29 black represents the center and the gray the window of points in a completely

60:35 system. And so the plotting of so when you look at the the

60:40 the closeness, you know, so you have a point you can calculate

60:44 likelihood of a point being a certain away. Okay? You're noticing the

60:51 one, you know, because you've extremely tight clusters and then big spaces

60:55 no area at short distances. If have a point, there's a very

61:00 likelihood that there'll be a point next it. And that's clearly not

61:04 So that departs from what we what expect in a random distribution, then

61:10 see that it goes negative. And of course means that at a certain

61:14 there's a high likelihood of not not a point because you're in the middle

61:19 clusters. So then you get a correlation. Okay. And then it

61:24 of settles down in this example the closeness of the points, they

61:30 , there's a greater likelihood of finding point. If you have one

61:35 there's a high likelihood of finding a close to it. That's that's that's

61:39 higher than you expect in a random . So at a distance of about

61:45 from away from the point, uh a there's a high prediction likelihood that

61:51 get points close together. So that mean a an avulsion cluster if they

61:58 channels. All right. So to a long story short, here's the

62:03 from the flume experiments and from the formation. And they showed at distances

62:10 Sort of uh this is mm. that's 50. So there's a bit

62:15 negative correlation that it's positive correlated. there's a slight clustering at about

62:21 but it's fairy random. So not lot of emotion clusters here.

62:26 in the fairest, they just they parted the center of a channel

62:29 not the, not the width of . And I mean, even though

62:32 looks pretty random to me, they that that at distances of great about

62:37 m there tend to be these Okay, now we thought about applying

62:44 to our fair in data. And here's the sequence photography. Sorry

62:51 the rap here. Uh this is stand transgressive systems track the green surfaces

62:59 represent little marine bands uh and calm . The coli faces overlying the marine

63:06 . And they matched the predictive models fairly solid evolution pretty well.

63:11 You've always gotten sized valleys, There's of them. So there's two major

63:15 boundaries and then but the in the you notice that these these clusters of

63:20 and the upper rather muddy your But they do seem these areas where

63:26 have clusters of channels. There's even here. We did talk to Liz

63:31 doing the crest analysis. She said that you don't have enough thickness to

63:36 have the statistics work. So we suggest that they could be involved in

63:41 Anyways. The last two slides I'll about is just a couple of,

63:47 know, a lot of secrets, done in foreland basins partly because they

63:51 and they get stuck up in the and they get a road and you

63:54 see all the geology right in a margin. There's a passive margin substance

64:03 to be great here and it's less it's less and that tends to be

64:08 hinge point. Right. So a margin subsides like that for the basin

64:12 the opposite. Right? It subsides the direction of settlements are coming

64:17 Do you tend to get an area high subsidence and as you go

64:21 an area of low subsidence at some you even get a peripheral bulges that

64:25 part of the basin pops up a bit. Okay, of course.

64:30 all of that's going to change the depending on whether you're in this area

64:33 high subsidence, this area of low . So as an example, you

64:39 , Henry post material. So just there's a sea level drop.

64:42 zone A see that was dropping, the base maybe dropping faster. So

64:47 still creating a combination now, it be less if sea level is

64:52 If sea levels dropping, you it might be your combination might be

64:57 . If it stops dropping, then combination takes over. So what you

65:00 expect is just just to see an similar to this upper effect here,

65:06 accommodation is low, you get clustering is high, you get you get

65:11 expansion. Okay? Yes, from stage. Yeah. So that's on

65:24 right. So then what Henry said look in this zone B where accommodation

65:29 much lower or you have peripheral A sea level drop is likely it's

65:34 to be expressed as a force progression value film, but that same sea

65:38 dropped in the high combination area may have any sequence boundary associated. Just

65:42 change in the amalgamation of channels. right. That's a little introduction to

65:50 marine sequence photography. Let's take a . And when we come back all

65:57 about incised valleys. So it's kind two things I want to talk about

66:10 . Oh. Mhm. Back when was probably around 90 nine, Somewhere

66:19 there, The National Science Foundation. you. I had this big

66:27 what they called source to sink. the idea was they want to get

66:31 bunch of researchers to look at a source system. So some sort of

66:36 real system draining an island and a of oceanographers to look at the offshore

66:44 and try to really, you examine an entire source to sync system

66:49 look for relationships. Typically in the business, we're very focused on the

66:55 . You know, we're we're looking oil and gas in the sediments.

66:59 But sometimes the size and scale of in the sink is related to what's

67:05 on in the source area? And have been a number of times when

67:10 been working on a play and you , the question is, what's the

67:16 quality? Is it nice clean Is it? Is it dirty

67:20 Is it clay rich sand? Is mostly courts, Is that courts have

67:24 specific. Is there heavy minerals, minerals, you know, and a

67:29 a lot of that affects the porosity permeability and the reservoir quality and a

67:34 of that relates to the area that's drained. And if you're, I

67:37 some of the largest amounts of sediment the world are eroded off island arcs

67:44 they're stuck down subduction zones. How oil fields are there in a subduction

67:51 or in the marianas trench? The is most of that stand is has

67:56 volcanic origin and when it gets compressed has no porosity. So you

68:02 it's their marine systems, there could source rock there. But the trick

68:08 volcanic island arcs and the sedimentary basins them is the sediment tends to be

68:13 immature and it tends to be dominated labor minerals such as plastic plays and

68:19 the beans and stuff and they tend break down easily with burial and basically

68:24 up the works and destroy all the . So, so the the source

68:31 sync idea was sort of part of was, you know what inferences?

68:34 the other thing is, you some of this is academic, some

68:39 it is relevant to your business. know, sometimes you want to,

68:43 where where was that land mass? know, if an ocean rifts,

68:48 know, the rivers, the the on one side of the ocean that

68:51 feeding sediments on the other side of ocean when the ocean wasn't there?

68:56 now the source, you know, sort of the atlas mountains are now

68:59 from the sediments that they deposited in North America because the atlantic ocean

69:04 And of course, you can look the composition of the sediments, say

69:07 area was being drained Well, we be eroding our key and rocks were

69:12 appears full thrust belt and that will be indicated by the composition and the

69:18 of the minerals. So to try icons, for instance, can give

69:21 the age of the of the rocks the source area. All right.

69:29 these are diagrams that kind of modified mike bloom. This is his power

69:35 metaphor for source to sync system. , some systems are very large.

69:40 know, if you look at the I'll show you some examples in a

69:43 , you know, the Mississippi drains Rocky Mountains and those rivers flow all

69:47 way to the gulf of Mexico. a continental scale system. And,

69:51 know, you may have uh rises falls of sea level. Right.

69:56 all those do they just change one in a large source to sync

70:01 Right. However, other rivers may start within the within the sort of

70:07 system, such that when the sea drops, the only sediment really available

70:11 dump into a submarine fan is the the material that's evacuated out because of

70:16 fall and the generation of incised valley opposed to a system that's conveying sediment

70:22 a much larger system and that of has a profound difference on,

70:27 the size and shapes of submarine fans you might be exploring for.

70:32 a conveyor belt model that might be continental scale system will produce much larger

70:37 store fans than if you've got very rivers just excavating sediment from a small

70:45 . And again, we go back this idea of of types of channels

70:52 channels on the basis of whether they're , braided or nasty most. But

70:57 like to emphasize the classification of channels to the splitting and joining behavior.

71:03 when you're in the drainage basin or catchment, the system is collecting water

71:09 small channels and delivering them downstream to channels. And so those, that's

71:14 tribute to the tributary system that's commonly the size system, You know,

71:20 systems or what Wiseman partly called contributory typically incised. They will collect the

71:27 and frontally into a trunk system. if the trunk is in size,

71:30 can also get side drainages, so can get tributaries that are small tributaries

71:36 laterally into a trunk system or an tributary system that's draining a larger drainage

71:43 , of course, ultimately the trump un incised, and so at that

71:48 it's free to begin a pulsing or or both. Okay. And then

71:53 get into a distributor very system. . And in a tributary system,

72:00 slopes by definition must be convergent and is distributed system. The slopes by

72:06 must be divert. Right? So very nature of the slope of the

72:09 surface is different. And typically of , if it's an inside system,

72:13 slopes are order of magnitude steeper. also means that, you know,

72:17 incised rivers, even the small ones have a lot of boulders and gravel

72:22 , because they're in size, they don't have a great strata. Graphic

72:25 . Okay. And of course, , 1 of the big questions

72:31 can you distinguish trunk tributary and distribute channels in the system? And it's

72:37 , right? If you find a And you determine that it's a small

72:42 channel, that means you're downstream. could be 100 km downstream. Whereas

72:49 you find a terminal distributor channel, means you're at the end of the

72:53 , there's no likelihood of getting sounds unless there's been a forced regression.

73:00 ? So in exploration, you we we explore in an area.

73:04 you're exploring for structural trap, but want to But one of the deposition

73:08 on that trap, but they proximal distal of a convergent rivers or tributary

73:14 , trunk or distributor, the And then if you know that you

73:18 start wondering what kind of what scale channels deltas and systems do you have

73:26 what kind of films do you And that of course relates to

73:28 what kind of boundaries are present in area? And this is just a

73:35 that's got horizontal resolution, The bottom , vertical resolution on the vertical axis

73:41 from kilometers, two millimeters. And emphasizes that different types of data allow

73:47 types of resolution. So outcrops, know can give you information, you

73:54 , you can get out crops that kilometers high and up to tens of

73:58 wide, sometimes more and so you , you know decipher the size and

74:04 of systems at a wide variety of and our crops in core. You

74:10 have mhm ah there are places where get, I actually was in Russia

74:20 they drilled the Sputnik core and it , it was several kilometers of continuous

74:25 . So I mean, well logs be, You know 20,000 ft

74:30 So you can get a few kilometers well log and you know, most

74:33 are 20 m, but you know you'll get core information that that is

74:39 , Quite extensive in terms of its . But of course the width of

74:42 core is about 10 cm. You get a lot of lateral information.

74:46 logs again can be very deep but again the width of the width of

74:53 of the longest, You know, deep induction law might give you information

74:58 or 10 m away from the well and of course we're interested now today

75:03 channels and channel belts. So the is, you know, what do

75:08 capture in a well log? Do ever see a channel or do you

75:12 a channel belt? And you can distinguish the two? And you're doing

75:15 right now already with the exercises where got one dimensional data and you're trying

75:21 say, okay, there's three channels here. Five channels. You look

75:25 that sharp based finding upward succession. it's, if it's conglomerate capped by

75:30 , you've probably got a full channel if you have a conglomerate and then

75:34 , coarse sand, it rode into another conglomerate, you probably haven't got

75:38 upper part of the fill preserved. ? So that's in the in the

75:41 of, you know, how much the fill is preserved and how can

75:45 approximate the channel death. And of in size valleys can be big things

75:50 you know, depending on the size scale. Seismic data has a vertical

75:55 problem. But obviously you're able to things laterally. So we do have

76:01 on the size of scales of things we can see depending on the

76:05 And then there is, you one of the other big things that

76:08 are trying to predict in the subsurface given that we have lots of information

76:12 the thickness of sediments. Can we predictions about their lateral extent. And

76:18 a lot of people have compiled a of data on sedimentary systems, whether

76:22 be deep water, shallow water. I'll return to this when we talk

76:26 deep water systems tomorrow and I'll talk scaling relationships uh that allowed to predict

76:32 size and scale of deep water systems how how many of you took the

76:38 of systems deposition environments class with Bill , Did he talk about deep water

76:43 ? Much the little bit at the , Yeah, yeah. So I'll

76:49 you a little bit at the very of this class as well.

76:52 But with the two together, you'll a bit, you know, obviously

76:54 water is a big has been a big play for a long time.

76:58 , you'll notice, for example, this compilation here, you've got channel

77:02 that, you know, a single Phil and then a channel belt which

77:07 deposit the channel makes it migrates And of course the thickness of the

77:12 fill the channel belt pretty similar because the channels migrating laterally. Now,

77:17 channel can lift a little bit, know, so the thickness of a

77:20 might be a bit thick, bit than than than the channel Phil.

77:25 you notice that the thickness really overlaps . The only difference is channel belts

77:30 wider, wider in general than channel . Haley valleys cannot be much

77:37 So perry valleys tend to be both because they cut deeper and produce a

77:42 succession of rocks or sediments? And course, because by definition they're both

77:47 and larger than the channel that makes . They paley valleys tend to be

77:52 . Okay, and then in in and pink, we've got the compilations

78:01 giggling who compiled information on bedrock which is the blue data and valleys

78:08 into sediments, which is the pink . And so there's overlap. But

78:12 the data collected by mike bloom, is the his paley valley data and

78:16 additional data that giving collected. But , there's lots of, there's lots

78:21 data around like these. How do use this? Well, here's how

78:26 would use it. Okay, so say that Andrew is giving me a

78:32 and she's pitching a play and she , I've got this 10 m uh

78:39 and I think it's uh, so here. Right. And she

78:43 I think it's It's 10 km then I'm going to say,

78:49 you know, There there aren't many that are that are 10 m deep

78:55 10 km wide it's more likely if a channel belt that it's a kilometer

79:01 . Right? So if you if you want to map that's 10

79:04 , I would say you're at you're at the P 95 You

79:08 in the words there's there's there's only 5% probability, it's going to be

79:12 big. Right, Have you done yet with dawn P 90 p 10

79:20 50. Yeah. So when you when you do, I mean,

79:34 should have done a whole lecture on it. Yeah. Anyway, so

79:37 I assume that you know about this . Ah But anyway, if you're

79:41 an F in a while yet, have to or prospect you have,

79:44 have to do a risk factor, ? And the problem risks the

79:47 So if you're only 50% sure of source rock and 50% during the

79:52 then right away your risk is Which is which means you have to

79:57 four wells to get a success. then if there's only a 50% chance

80:01 the structures holds because of seal Now it's 12.5%. So anyway,

80:07 are multiplication. Okay. And you apply rich to anything, you can

80:11 , well, what's the what's the that your 10 m deep channel Phil

80:16 a 10 kilometer wide channel belter, kilometer wide. You can say,

80:19 , I'm pretty sure that it's at a kilometer wide. I'm going to

80:22 there's a 95%. Certainly it's it's it's a kilometer wide there's only but

80:27 only a 5% chance it could be km wide. That was 10 km

80:32 . It could be a billion barrel field. So very high prize,

80:37 high risk, right? And you know, the least likely cases

80:44 resulting are the bigger things that have , more volume and therefore a bigger

80:49 , right? And oil companies have have to find this match balance between

80:54 risk of a play versus the right? And as I was talking

80:58 Don the other day we had you know, oil companies, you

81:03 that the the riskiest business that oil engage in his exploration and the least

81:09 things they engage in its production. you've got the oil, you

81:13 it's all about just getting the maximum out with the lowest cost to make

81:17 most profit. So you skip off of that money into exploration, which

81:21 much riskier. But why do exploration ? It's so risky? Why would

81:27 want to exploration? It's so What Who cares about that?

81:36 Your production do you want new reserves ? I think actually the value of

81:43 company is based on the value of dollar value of the resource that you

81:48 . And so of course once you it all feel great, you make

81:51 lot of money, maybe trillions of . But once it starts to wind

81:56 , you've got to replace the reserves how does an oil company replaces reserves

82:01 days? No by another company because so risky exploring anyway and there's a

82:11 of people out there that like to but they don't have the money to

82:14 it. So they work and play then they go and sell it,

82:16 try to get someone with money to into their exploration. Right,

82:22 Yeah, I could talk about this day and when I teach my petroleum

82:27 class, I give quite a few on risking and and play analysis

82:32 But I promised I said, the reason for teachers classes to show

82:36 how all this stuff applies to to to to the business decisions that your

82:42 may make right and you need to everything you do in geology at the

82:45 everything. What's the risk that my is correct? What's the risk that

82:50 over correlated? What's the risk that sand is? But the sand is

82:54 than I've mapped? Right, well the risk that there's way more sand

82:57 I think is there? Right. know, because sometimes Risking also is

83:01 missed opportunities. Right. And so diagram like this, this is the

83:05 of diagram you should really internalize. so when you go work in the

83:10 and someone says, yeah, this a channel. Okay, well let

83:13 see, I remember the channels can low net to gross, high net

83:16 growth. They could be wide and and it's controlled by these things.

83:19 that allows you to start thinking? , so is this a high subsidence

83:22 lotion? What kind of basins that basin or rift basin. And they

83:25 , oh that's a rift basin that probably has a high subsidence phase.

83:29 that would be high accommodation. So there's rivers there that that there's lots

83:33 space from the go, you and so maybe there's going to be

83:36 amalgamated channels, right. Whatever it be, or if you're in A

83:40 B. Zone the foreland basin And of course, you know,

83:45 trying to predict the dimensions of of and then this shows that the dimensions

83:50 systems depends on where they are with to the backwater length. Right?

83:55 if they're laminate the backwater, the aren't being that they're not being lifted

83:59 by by by tides and sea So though gravity is basically keeping that

84:04 stuck to the ground and so the tends to migrate laterally, making wide

84:09 belts. If you think about it of is you know, if you

84:13 the concept of the backwater is the level, talking to the river and

84:17 it's annoying, the river, the tends to lift up and if it

84:20 up, you can switch, So so within the backwater the river

84:26 more likely to lift up and switch less likely to migrate, which means

84:31 narrower isolated channel belts, which means quality reservoirs. And then if you

84:36 the title back water you could start have mud drapes. However, if

84:41 in the lowest backwater, it might a little bit extra incision because of

84:44 push during floods. Right? So could get a little sweet spot of

84:48 incisions closer to the shore line. bloom also points out that, you

84:56 , so we've got a couple of here on the on the right is

85:00 he calls, you know, classic period of icehouse period. So you've

85:05 large magnitude or high aptitude sea level and when sea levels low, you

85:11 a lot of area of area that underwater is now exposed. And that

85:17 for more tributary junctions to occur, means you can get much larger rivers

85:22 the downstream. And but during greenhouse when the attitude of sea levels

85:28 the small changes in sea level don't separate drainage systems to coalesce downstream.

85:35 so you tend to get small delta during times of during greenhouse periods.

85:42 the Canterbury Plains in New Zealand, sort of a good example of what

85:46 a a low frequency amplitude sea level might look like you've got relatively small

85:54 to sink systems with braided rivers all way to the coast and lots of

86:01 . And you can drop sea level these rivers are never going to have

86:04 space to join together. Right? the same, the same, the

86:08 delta systems will be the same regardless if you're a high standard low

86:13 That's not true in in, in in a passive margin in an icehouse

86:18 . You know, the low stance fans are much bigger and deltas than

86:22 high stand. Delta's okay, all . And so here's the Ganges brahmaputra

86:29 and you see all you know this there's much more area for these all

86:33 rivers to join together, right? got the Ganges and brahmaputra coming

86:38 And of course they feed, you , one of the biggest deltas in

86:41 world. And of course the the brahmaputra fan is one of the largest

86:47 fans of the as you made up notice the scale there 200 km vs

86:54 km. So completely different scale stores sink systems. So I was kind

87:01 getting into the source to sink game decided to put together paleo drainage maps

87:09 and the downstream systems for north America the entire uh mrs Zoe and and

87:20 . So these are the late Triassic . When Pandya was still assembled,

87:24 had a Himalayan mountain chain down the of Pangea. And you know,

87:29 of those rivers were probably draining, know, So this is the translator

87:33 river system that was mapped by what's name of this Liz miller I think

87:41 stanford. Uh and then the chin dot com system in texas here and

87:47 the these Triassic systems in Canada Um By the late Jurassic you had

87:55 more organized drainage again, still draining Appalachians. Ah and there was a

88:02 and that there was drainage coming from evolving cordillera. So the Rocky Mountains

88:11 well as the Canadian shield and the feeding kind of into Alberta. Uh

88:19 taylor drainage system, was there all way through to the early cretaceous.

88:25 of course these deposit, these incised here are filled with 70 m deep

88:32 belts that are in turn filled No, we want that. We've

88:41 the sediment, the channel belts and channel belts are filled with. Thank

88:48 a little bit. The sand is with what kind of oil? The

88:57 sands. There you go. You , at least one of you knows

89:01 about Canadian patrol geology, but that's you're born in Calgary right. There

89:05 go. So that's the Alberta oil . Right. And they're they're in

89:08 continental scale river that drains the entire north America and of course then you

89:13 a drainage basin here and then you've the, the cretaceous systems in

89:18 Okay, now then the forum base to develop And it split North America

89:25 two subcontinent chlamydia to the west and to the east. And we had

89:32 series of much smaller delta systems And in a time of warmth. And

89:38 we get a lot of small separate . So rivers are never deeper than

89:43 10 m As opposed to the 50 60 m deep rivers that were associated

89:48 the Manville formation, which of course the Alberta oil sands. Okay,

89:54 , foundational, different sources and systems in very different reservoirs. Okay,

90:01 hmm. And as the, as , as the land meteorologically culminated,

90:08 get what's called this kind of mega to which is the belly river in

90:13 and the Mesa verde in in in the States and the Diferente in

90:18 . And eventually, uh, the foreland basin drained seaway drained

90:24 Uh, and this is the present drainage basins. So the drainage basin

90:29 , that the continental divide used to along what's called the transcontinental arch in

90:36 late, later, late cretaceous. , and that area basically subsided.

90:44 now the drainage basin is just south the US Canada border. And so

90:48 got that the, the trans Canadian that drains into in the Hudson's

90:54 Uh, and of course the ST , which is smaller. And then

90:58 got basically paley drainage for the Okay, that produces a big source

91:03 sink systems, Right? These are , the gulf of Mexico deltas and

91:07 fans. That, that, that's the deep water that everybody's growing

91:12 right. All right, little stretch . That, that's kind of my

91:18 source to sink. Uh, lecture it will come back to it

91:23 you know, it's really critical for , it's really, really important for

91:28 making risk predictions about the size and of things. And, you

91:33 one of the beauties of sequence photography that if you have an incised valley

91:37 predicts a low stance seaward. if you have, if you have

91:40 low stand submarine fan, it predicts there might be a submarine that might

91:45 of incised value feeding it right? predicting one systems tracks allow you to

91:51 what's linked to it, both down and up. Okay, so the

91:55 Canyon is obviously the largest in size on Planet Earth today. And there's

92:02 colorado colorado river at the bottom with sand bars in it. And clearly

92:07 doesn't matter how much the colorado the . You know, if you're standing

92:10 the rim, that water is never to wet your feet. Okay.

92:14 of course the Grand Canyon was cut the colorado plateau lifted up as a

92:18 of the flat slab, the transition steep to flat subduction of the Farallon

92:24 in the Laramie. Heterogeneous. so definitions. Remember there'll be definitions

92:30 the quiz tomorrow, I think I I can tell you fairly safely.

92:37 , I've got to be careful I think there's really very little on

92:41 quiz on anything I've lectured today. , Other than stuff that I repeat

92:46 . So if I repeat something that's . But this new stuff, I

92:50 think I've got, I don't think got anything on incised values anyway.

92:54 what if you're studying, don't don't too much time on today's lectures.

92:58 more on what I talked about last . And I'm really happy that you've

93:03 made the attempt of all the exercises going to just help cement things.

93:08 won't be any correlations tomorrow. There will be something that relates to correlation

93:12 the final exam. So even if haven't finished the exercises, I think

93:16 all done enough that you'll be pretty with it. Okay, so values

93:21 elongate irrational feature that is significantly deeper the river that now occupies and the

93:27 and size of which do not routinely the Grand Canyon. Although we call

93:31 a Ghanaian canyon by definition, you , it is a valley according to

93:37 definition. It's an elongate topographic low significantly deep in the river that occupies

93:42 and the walls of which cannot flood the river floods. So it's essentially

93:47 gigantic value. And we also talked the fact that the the the the

93:52 the elongate low is the river. river is under fit with respect to

93:57 topographic feature. It lies now incised are interpreted to form sequence boundaries,

94:07 surfaces that form as a result of level drop. And what else is

94:12 to the size of valley, sea dropped. And for me gotta have

94:20 river system. Yeah. What else required if you want to revert to

94:27 size, what do you have to you have to expose a steeper slope

94:32 have an IQ point. If you a shower slope, the river

94:35 will elevate, right? So that's of important. Right? So sequence

94:41 are interpreted form because of relative sea fall accompanied by an abrupt sea witch

94:46 faces and a basin would shift and lap and also erosion of an incised

94:53 and widespread severity exposure. That could expressed by paleo halls or cars,

94:59 in ancient systems. And of because of the narrow, small length

95:06 time associated with drops of sea level a, on a, on

95:12 on a sine curve like that, that sea level has signed soil.

95:16 an assumption. The Exxon folks assumed these irrational surfaces formed essentially instantaneously or

95:26 a short enough period of time that probably wasn't much deposition going on.

95:32 not a great assumption, I would . It's actually quite wrong. But

95:35 was a simplifying assumption they made, know, back in the, in

95:39 90s, right. And they had lot of one dimensional data that proved

95:44 . But unfortunately it was one dimensional . And if I think about it

95:51 , I can give you the argument tell you where they went wrong.

95:56 of course, okay, now this the third time by showing this

95:58 So that tells you that I think is a very important point. You

96:02 , the valley initiates at the point the slope increases and that's what we

96:07 , you know, it's a nick little knocks that occurs at a

96:10 But of course it occurs along the that defines where that slope break

96:16 Okay. And when we went through slide, you know, the and

96:21 nick point grows with time. So thing to remember is that the size

96:26 the valley, in terms of its is controlled less by the nick point

96:31 more by the amount of time that level is low. So if it

96:35 falls and rises very quickly, there simply not be much time for a

96:39 to do much work. Right? get a small, you know,

96:43 the value won't be very wide. if it sits there for 1000

96:46 like the Colorado River or millions of , then then a river could cut

96:50 very, very, very large topographic all feature. And so the ability

96:55 the riveter road is controlled. The of the depth of erosion. Scope

97:00 controlled by the slope. The depth which the smoke change occurs, the

97:05 of the river to erode the material exposed. Is it bedrock or is

97:09 soft sediment? Obviously the climate plays role. If it's if it's a

97:13 desert, there may not be much for erosion to occur, there was

97:17 more humid environment and it rains more there's more water to do more

97:21 And of course, time is a deal right along the duration of

97:25 the more complex drainage patterns and the and more complex incised valleys can be

97:32 . So here's a series of just cross sections that show, you

97:36 a river that's not in size. in this case the rivers, it's

97:40 stage and it's it's flooding over the and flooding the flood. The flood

97:45 . Okay then, and be the is now in sizing and so at

97:49 level, it can no longer flood the the the the area that used

97:54 be a flood, a flood Of course, this creates a subsidiary

97:59 point. And so any water on floodplain that falls on the floodplain will

98:04 this little notch air. And so will cause value widening. Okay,

98:09 of course, the valley will will roll down to the point at which

98:13 buffer allows it, and that relates the depth of the increase in

98:20 So here's the original floodplain level, are incised valley and that's the the

98:27 , the maximum height of the of channel in in flood. Okay.

98:32 of course, okay, here's another section, I'm showing again. So

98:36 the model for for cutting and filling simple incised value during the falling

98:42 F SST falling falling falling system. systems tracked will force regressive wedge systems

98:50 . We get a decision interestingly keith show some preserved terraces, right,

98:58 that those yellow represent terraces that the left high as it was degrading,

99:04 ? So, you know, there a step in which the valley was

99:08 , then it was lower. And we see the valley is deepening with

99:13 and as it's deepening, it's also a little bit more narrow.

99:16 you know, you stand in the in the Grand Canyon, you look

99:19 and when you cut down the cramped Grand Canyon, it gets narrower and

99:22 , eventually gets the Colorado river, the deepest point and also the narrowest

99:27 the canyon ever gets. Now, the valley is now, then the

99:35 the then you get into low stand the river begins to a grade.

99:40 in this model, the river simply over the original valley and doesn't do

99:45 more lateral erosion. That's not So I'm gonna, I'm gonna We've

99:51 that a little bit and then shot showed that when sea level reaches its

99:57 , you start may start to see influence in the valleys, but that's

100:01 if the valley is within the title and if the valley's way upstream and

100:07 tides are minimal, you won't see title for it. So you need

100:10 be, you know, the value to be fairly close to the sea

100:12 you need to have a title high range to see tidal influence in a

100:16 filled our mantle channels in the tar show title influence Probably 200 km landlord

100:26 the shorelines. There's been a huge of debates as to why it shows

100:30 tidal influence. It's also an extremely developed laterally migrate extreme that shows no

100:37 of lifting so bloom said it's got be louder the backwater but it shows

100:42 insolence. And what option is that was a massive tidal range down

100:48 There's also saltwater trace fossils and the on what they're doing there. One

100:55 is that the tidal water comes in that's hard to believe unless you've got

100:58 massive tidal range, but the tar basically rolled into salts. So it's

101:05 that salt water was actually in the the red river is salty. I

101:09 know if you know that that's because drains evaporates. Right. So some

101:13 are salty because the drain evaporates. , I dry grass and we talked

101:18 that a little bit now. So been thinking about this idea of incised

101:27 for years and oops, probably wondering what I'm doing I guess.

102:38 this guy got a bit messed up here we are at time one and

102:43 see this nice shallow wide valley then level starts to drop and so the

102:48 narrows and deepens here at its lowest , the valleys of its deepest and

102:55 sea level starts to rise and in example, the river starts to cut

103:00 the old value of widening. And so in the end you get

103:05 erosion will scour surface that never existed one time as a geum or fix

103:11 . There was there was a wide valley, narrowed, deepened, and

103:16 as it expanded, the river eroded wider valley but there was once again

103:23 . And so they point out that strata, graphic erosion of surface never

103:29 as a single point in time. they suggested this idea of topographic versus

103:35 , graphic valleys, strata, graphic would be an irrational feature that you

103:39 correlate in a cross section. That necessarily mean that there was a big

103:43 hole that existed at that time and sort of the antithesis of of the

103:51 Mccabe model that says, look, was this great, great big,

103:54 massive hole that existed because of the and that whole never got any bigger

103:59 as it filled up. What what paola group demonstrated is that in fact

104:06 valleys can widen with time. So a little sort of movie. So

104:14 we are at time, one which a shallow wide valley just beginning to

104:20 , then it deepens and narrows deepens narrows the red dot is sea level

104:28 . Then it gets to the lowest and here they show a little widening

104:32 , so it deepens and then cuts . Okay, and then it starts

104:38 shallow and cut some more. So red area used to be the old

104:42 . Now it's gonna rode away and it rises and fails to cut some

104:48 . And then we and then we to the end. And so the

104:51 represents the incised valley fill. The represents the erosion of surface. But

104:57 point out that that surface evolved throughout entire fall to rise cycle, with

105:02 of that of that widening of the occurring late in the filling.

105:07 what they don't show is preservation of is, but so that's another

105:16 So the point they make is that that is that they can this what

105:21 means? Is that the sequence boundary this idea is a single,

105:30 you know, widespread surface without a of sediment on it. It's just

105:34 . An irrational surface. Maybe a bits of lag, right? And

105:39 model, the rivers never migrate laterally channel belts behind. That's not the

105:44 rivers work, Right? So rivers leave channel belts as sea levels

105:49 Uh So they can cut and cover erosion of surface throughout the fall to

105:55 cycle. And that's a very different than Exxon proposed where they said,

106:00 , the system just completely excavated and preservation of the falling stage occurs.

106:06 we think that was a pretty serious . Okay, the blue surface represents

106:13 largest D'Amore Fick value that ever existed the red surface represents the strata graphic

106:18 and the area between the blue line the red line would be these

106:24 these rising and falling stage terraces. so in order to try to help

106:30 understand this couple of things, but I show a cross section in a

106:39 section, you sort of have to the river is kind of coming in

106:42 out of the page. Right. know, anyone cross section, unless

106:46 cross section goes exactly up the acts the river, you're not always gonna

106:51 it on the dip line. So if we imagine, uh,

106:59 know, if we imagine a anna delta, you know, if

107:05 draw a cross section, you I only hit the river at this

107:10 here here at the cross section doesn't the river. So we're imagining the

107:16 section. I'm showing you is from point to be there, it's going

107:23 . Okay. You know, So we are at time one we've got

107:29 little meander about. They're labeled one an orange color And it's feeding Delta

107:34 . Okay, so there's little distributor running across this black surface here.

107:38 I'm, I'm just gonna say the smaller would illustrate, but we've got

107:42 little, maybe a little nick point a seat over there and we've

107:45 so that's the original sequence bounder that black surface there. Okay, now

107:51 let's allow sea level to fall a bit more. Okay, so there's

107:56 old there's the old time one time . Okay, so we've dropped sea

108:05 And now we've got delta number two deposited. Okay. But of course

108:09 above everything about the red line, dashed area have eroded away.

108:15 this area doesn't erode anymore. That has already done its business. So

108:21 we get we cut an extension of of of this irrational surface. So

108:26 got the original sequence boundary. I've red. Then we've got the new

108:31 boundary in two. Of course, new surface has to be on top

108:35 that oil surface. Okay. But rivers are now overriding the delta that

108:41 just fed. And if we continue process, these river channels ride over

108:46 delta is they're feeding it. so now we've got a surface,

108:55 this surface here and the extension of . And the rocks above the sequence

109:05 in this old terrace are older. the delta below the sequence boundary in

109:12 more distal position. You get Right? So there's there's a single

109:18 surface that you correlate and that's riding a delta below it. That's younger

109:26 the than the river above it. that river is preserved terrace. So

109:33 we have older sediments above the surface younger sediments below the surface because the

109:39 is the same age everywhere. So we've got an erosion of surface with

109:44 rocks above and younger rocks below. , wait a minute, a sequence

109:49 is defined as a surface that everywhere older below from younger above. But

109:56 we've got an evolving surface that's diaphanous a little bit of old stuff on

110:01 . And it's building out over over systems below. That violates the definition

110:07 the sequence back. It's not a accurate surface. That makes sense.

110:15 can be tricky to grasp the best of course to show it with the

110:18 diagram. Right? So there is age of the Delta's, right?

110:24 their young wood age. You've had with wheel diagrams. So you should

110:28 able to more or less understand these when I show them. Look at

110:33 age of the of the, of valley fill, right? There's an

110:37 flavor of Olivia Rox, right? was feeding unit one, then there's

110:41 younger channel, it's feeding unit And I can't draw a horizontal line

110:46 that sequence boundary that, that everywhere , you know, in order for

110:52 to be Cronus radical graphically significant. , that channel would have to be

110:56 here. And then I could say , there's a period of time in

110:59 there's no deposits, but because of migration of channel belts that cover over

111:04 evolving sequence boundary, you get these relationships. Okay, that makes

111:12 yep. So, I mean, know, I'm anticipating myself.

111:18 if that was the age of the that would satisfy the definition of a

111:23 boundary as a surface that everywhere separates sediments above from older sediments below.

111:29 if the wheel diagram relationships look like , then it it can't be a

111:35 boundary in the strict definition. So security is the gap in time that

111:42 that that that represents the area that sentiment has been eroded as long as

111:47 empty, then you've got yourself a boundary. If it's not empty,

111:51 it's a bit more complicated. Does make a huge difference while the difference

111:55 makes is whether or not you think is that age or this is

112:00 Right. And if it's younger then means that's filled with transgressive sediments much

112:05 and doesn't have anything to do with with with these systems here. Whereas

112:10 this is filled with the same sediments as that, then it applies that

112:15 sediments were feeding those sediments and that have implications for reservoir quality as well

112:20 paella geographic maps. So the traditional strata graphic view of a sequence boundary

112:26 that although it's never been defined this . If I was going to define

112:29 sequence boundary, I would say it's sequence boundary in which horizontal line could

112:34 drawn with lacuna that separates older and unions. I think I should write

112:41 paper on that and in geology and redefinition of of a sequence boundary,

112:47 if I can get away with And here is the Faron. We

112:54 talked about this because they're nice undulating boundary at the base. And here

113:01 the wheeler diagram. Okay. And a little bit hard to see.

113:07 let me just show you. So my student put together this wheeler diagram

113:14 you know here we have this forced ah seaward stepping wedges. Uh And

113:27 that's ah that's these systems here. down stepping and these systems are down

113:35 and they're fed by that valley Right. So the question is,

113:39 the age of the channels here versus sediment seaward. Okay. And this

113:46 E. J. Kind of just all the valleys up as quite young

113:51 I just took away his valley surface relax the ages of the channels of

113:57 channel belts. In the more language these channels could be as old as

114:02 . I put some I don't I don't have any idea. But

114:06 just said I hypothesized that some of channels could could drop down into the

114:12 and maybe even drop down into the . Okay. And it foundational changes

114:18 understanding of the genetic strata, graphic , you know in sequence? Trickery

114:23 requires definitions. Right? What's the about power sequence? Yeah. And

114:36 the definition of a sequence relatively conform succession bounded by sequence boundaries and the

114:52 conformity. These you know? And with the word genetically related assistance,

114:57 , that genetically related group of de systems. Right, So this this

115:03 of genetic relationship appears in sequence And I just think, you

115:07 the value of the real diagrams. , it's a bit academic, but

115:11 wheeler diagrams tell you what's related in and that that without the wheeler

115:16 you shouldn't be talking about genetic Right. Genetic relationships in time can

115:21 really be fully demonstrated by understanding wheeler or the the time strata, graphic

115:28 . Now bloom. Mike bloom is , you know, a gifted paternity

115:33 . And he got tired of being academic and jump ship and went to

115:37 at Exxon for For about five or years. Anyway. Then he went

115:42 to become an academic needs in Kansas . And he started working on the

115:47 sands. And so he was very to understand how those valley fills in

115:51 oil sands work. And he well, you know, in the

115:55 , you know, a lot of valleys are cut with this sort of

115:58 degradation and it reflects the quaternary. level curves. Right? So this

116:04 uh today, zero, 120,000 years . And you can see that that

116:11 level is falling in hiccups falls a stabilizes, falls a bit more rises

116:16 bit, but never back up to level of laws falls again And eventually

116:20 down at the last glacial maximum 18,000 ago to the lowest level. And

116:25 what happens is the river cuts, , cuts. Maybe it rise a

116:29 bit moves laterally, but then eventually kind of ends up ends down this

116:33 hole, right. And so but lot of people are turning these things

116:38 kind of, you know, but Exxon idea was the cold gets cut

116:42 then the whole valley fills aggregation. excellent. Just did not like the

116:46 of degradation. They didn't like forced in the shorelines and they didn't like

116:51 their values. And so, you , Henry post material promoted forced regression

116:58 he left Exxon. And I think were unhappy with the fact that he

117:04 and I think got real political. I mean to this day that the

117:09 Exxon folks struggle with admitting that anything and that anything is preserved during

117:16 And that's unfortunate because you missed the process but clearly required by the way

117:24 sea level falls in the veterinary. if that kind of steps it will

117:28 occurs in ancient systems, then these degradation patterns should be common in the

117:32 record. Not rare, which was original exile interpretation of course, what

117:38 does is it leaves all these terrorists that, that completely changed the genetic

117:47 and you know in in Alberta in , in those late cretaceous sized

117:55 there are compositional changes. Some of degradation of terraces have different compositions that

118:01 in different die genesis that results in reservoir qualities. And there's lots of

118:06 on that in the uh, the and the other formations equivalents to the

118:11 farther to the west, which are oil and gas fields in Alberta.

118:16 there's at this, there's hard applications understand these differences in how valleys cut

118:21 fill in terms of reservoir quality and genetic relationships. And so bloom sort

118:29 point out the difference in the ages surfaces in low accommodation degradation systems versus

118:35 accommodation systems. But in either he points out that the valley fill

118:41 is dia chris. Okay, here's example that sort of emphasizes the idea

118:49 , that in the strong and pale paper. So here we've got a

118:54 of valley at time one, time two times three and four.

118:59 you can see that the valley is deepening and narrowing, then it

119:04 to fill and widen and eventually, know, shallows and widens a little

119:09 more. And of course, you , here is this master irrational

119:16 Okay, so that's the basil grand fill on conformity, but that's a

119:23 surface formed by complicated both degradation, land aggregation processes during cycles of sea

119:30 rise and falls. So the point , you know, the simple point

119:35 that sequence boundaries aren't so simple and irrational surface do not form instantaneously,

119:41 know, everywhere. there's just this hole they form painfully and slowly with

119:48 deposits of variable ages filling these Then the longer the more amount of

119:54 , the more complex the history of , the more complex the valley fills

119:58 the bigger they are. Okay, right, how about wintertime here,

120:05 other break or keep going for a more, keep going. Okay,

120:12 , so let's talk about how you physically recognize the value. Here is

120:15 nice photograph from uh, from Ron and it shows simple truncation and

120:24 And you've already been drawing this in , in your, in your cross

120:28 , right? Drawing a scour and and stuff. Not a particular concept

120:34 and stuff that, that, that cutting into uh, and the fill

120:38 laps or down lapses the bottom and of the valley. Uh huh.

120:44 here's a photograph of an incised this tectonic valley, the Red river

120:49 Alberta photographed that Henry took that he's into Calgary on one of his many

120:53 and we've got these uh, side , side drainages feeding into the

121:00 the main valley that's occupied by the river and its flood plain. So

121:05 this case, we've got a pretty river that's got a river and floodplain

121:09 the valley system. So whether or the valley fills with channel belt or

121:14 depends on the size of the river the width of the valley, it's

121:17 very wide valley and a very small . Then you can get, you

121:21 , you may get a lot of filling the river. I want to

121:25 out that the erosion in a sea fall by rivers is inefficient because it's

121:31 little rivulets of water. You you can only get erosion where the

121:35 is. You get a bit of and stuff. So as a

121:40 you know, the original, the, the incision is partly scaled

121:44 the, to the age, to the magnitude of the agent,

121:48 is the size and the, and behavior of the river. You

121:52 if it's shifting around, then it cut a wider valley. Thanks,

121:57 values can be seen in seismic I mentioned seismic human ethology when I

122:03 about the seismic and of course seismic has really opened up our ability to

122:09 at ancient morphology is, and topography uh, and both symmetries of both

122:17 and freshwater systems. So this is offshore gulf of Thailand. Of course

122:21 gulf of Thailand is a shelf at last glacial maximum. It was,

122:25 was a flood plain with rivers running it. And because there was a

122:29 , smoke break. Those rivers size these beautiful incised incised valleys,

122:35 the channel is largely mud filled. so it shows up as a black

122:41 , don't drill the channel, you're have mud and one of the big

122:45 people solve these channels said, oh sand and drilled it and like

122:50 you actually drove the abandoned channel. you should have drilled is the area

122:55 to it, which is the old belt. That's where the sand

122:59 Don't drill the mud filled channel. . And then you've got these beautiful

123:04 drainages feeding into this uh nice and river. So there's a classic example

123:09 an incised meander uh and uh the travels in that direction. That's the

123:16 line cross line is perpendicular and you see the scale this valley. It's

123:20 a super big valley, maybe a kilometer or so across here's an example

123:25 Kalimantan, which again shows these dendritic feeding into a central canyon and here

123:34 see the mud filled channel highlighted with black color. Okay, so how

123:39 you recognize the valley? So the story is similar restoring the building.

123:45 it refers to uh one channel Phil be one story. So the story

123:51 essentially the thicknesses story is about equivalent the depth of the channel. Of

123:57 if you're in a valley, the of the valley is much deeper than

124:02 depth of the channel. So the , the valley by definition has to

124:06 up as the river either cuts Lady or Phil's aggregation either way,

124:11 going to produce a multistory film. , if you've got a big river

124:17 the Mississippi that's 17 years deep and cuts of minding me in a deep

124:22 . The valley that, that the is simply too big to get much

124:25 than 1.5 stories. But if you've a 10 m deep river and it

124:30 100 m valley, then you can it up with 10 stories.

124:34 So the number of stories in the fill is also function primarily of the

124:39 point exposure that that controls the overall of incision and then depending on how

124:44 the river is. If the, the depth of the nick point is

124:48 a little bit bigger than the then the river just simply won't cut

124:51 very deep valley. It won't be deeper than the actual river. And

124:56 see that in with really big river can cut valleys, but they're commonly

125:01 as multistory as smaller rivers travel faces not interfere with the floodplain unless the

125:08 is in the valley. And I'll you examples of floodplains in valleys and

125:12 are not in valleys. Ah Valley into fluids are typically associated with periods

125:20 widespread exposure. So that gives you styles and cars, You may have

125:25 flu viel or estuary fills again, on how close the values to the

125:30 and how aggressive the transgression is, big the tidal range in terms of

125:34 marina valley will fill will be, marine, how marines, the sediments

125:39 be that filled the valley. And can see in good seismic data as

125:44 saw the outcrop with truncation and on you can also see that in seismic

125:50 , if the valley is big enough be to be imaged and you may

125:55 multiple episodes of cut and fill ah they can have complex patterns depending on

126:01 it's a forced aggressive degradation of valley or whether it feels mostly during the

126:06 of history. And of course incision both downstream and up steen.

126:12 away from the nick point. unless you encounter another midpoint Lebron Willis

126:17 together these little cartoons and I kind covered them up and it's sort of

126:23 kind of illustrate the difference between an channel and an incised valley. So

126:30 systems are on the left, confined , or valleys are on the

126:34 So valleys on the right, unconfined the left, this would be unconfined

126:41 these will be the incised valleys. imagine a measure section or well logged

126:50 these systems. Okay, here you mud, you've got sound courses upward

126:59 to mud here, you've got sand finding upright and then it's over line

127:08 question upward. Okay, so in case you've got an open questioning pair

127:17 , you're gonna channel that's smaller than paris equals. Okay, so if

127:23 I did was give you, it looks like this, you might

127:31 , well that could be just an question delta, or it could be

127:37 upper coursing delta super post by And you couldn't tell if you just

127:42 a well off, you might well, look, council finds

127:45 but so I'm gonna go for the interpretation. It could be right,

127:49 be wrong. Right. In look at this one here, here's

127:55 paris sequences and then then we go the, into the here muddy.

128:23 here we're back to marine para So now we've got eight bell shaped

128:35 up with feature finds upward, that's twice as thick as the pair of

128:43 to go, like, okay, a mismatch between the scale of the

128:47 finding faces succession and the uh precaution adjacent to it, therefore you can

128:54 a valley in there. Okay. , you know, so if I

128:59 gave you this, well, logs correlate them, you'd say,

129:01 what's the size the scale of the finding unit versus the precaution units to

129:07 ? So I think I've got a . Okay, And you can sort

129:11 go through the exercise with all of block diagrams and in every case,

129:15 know, here we've got, you , here we've got a big block

129:20 Sam's. Okay, and here we've block of sand shale, a block

129:25 sound shale, a block of sand . Okay. And you I

129:30 you could say, well, I that's a valley or you could

129:34 I think it's just fortunate just juxtaposition vaulting channels, right? An avulsion

129:39 . Okay, brian Scotland, Ron for a lot of papers on incised

129:52 . I mean, you know, think they, you know, they

129:56 the idea of shortness valley systems that just have a simple couple Phil.

130:01 once again hit back to our example , we've got 1, 2,

130:11 , 4, 5 para sequences on left. We've got a simple company

130:15 that cuts one para sequence out and little bit of another one. But

130:19 all right, we've got ah a valley that consists of three episodes of

130:25 Phil and the deepest one is cutting three full para sequences. So we

130:32 a mismatch between the scale of the finding valley fill faces versus the

130:38 upward cautioning high stands that represent the units. The valley is cutting into

130:44 I'll show you examples of simple and systems ah in the later alluvial example

130:54 later this afternoon probably. And of coming back to the texas example,

131:09 is a bit interesting when, before mike bloom did his PhD at the

131:14 time. I did. So We graduated about 1989 and he was working

131:21 me aloe strategic graffiti of the quaternary , colorado systems in texas and I

131:29 working on the Alice photography of cretaceous in um, Canada and we met

131:37 this news conference in 1990 and because last name is bl and monty's bh

131:45 stuck us in the same room I never met this guy and we

131:50 it off immediately. Think we're the two people conference that knew what adults

131:54 was. And remember mike, I going fishing, he had this fishing

131:59 , he was going to go fish Banff, I said you can't fish

132:01 the national park without a license and like, sure, yeah, I

132:05 think so. I probably, you , you don't get arrested right?

132:09 , so what problem is he So, so historically, you

132:13 people saw these incisions, right? the decisions that it switches left,

132:19 switches right? And so with the are about, You know, they're

132:23 30 m deep and it's about the of the Mississippi River. So this

132:27 just auto cycling, river switching, ? This is just avulsion. And

132:32 they had a very oughta genic view the strategic graffiti like bloom came

132:36 So wait a minute, you there's, there's paleo halls associated with

132:41 decisions, you know, the river a few meters deep. This decision

132:46 30 m deep or You know 20 deep. He said that's not a

132:51 , that's a, that's, that's small valley and these valleys are

132:57 this is not load switching. And he built, he was one of

133:03 first guys to do, oh, data, you know what that is

133:07 stimulated luminescence. So carbon dating gets back about 10,000 years. Oh sl

133:16 a method where the courts grade is to the sun and it Resets the

133:23 to zero. The coarse grained gets . And radiation in the environment causes

133:30 dislocations in the court's crystal and it it to luminous and the longer the

133:37 crystals buried, the brighter and the luminescence. And so he took course

133:43 these quaternary sands and the luminescence and out that they were way older than

133:50 had thought, You know, 120,000 ? Not not a few 1000 years

133:55 this was not delta switching. stuck that on in we were diagram

134:01 demonstrated that the that this was a erosion surface surface formed Over the last

134:09 years of steps, suitable phone. . And it really forced him to

134:15 thinking about. So again here he's you know, icehouse inter stadio icehouse

134:20 stadio the last glacial maximum. The line represents the sea level change and

134:30 red line is basically showing the sediment . So the sediment discharges is low

134:37 the at the time of incision, is that? Why would sediment discharge

134:46 when when sea levels falling? Because are building up the red line shows

134:59 sediment discharge, right? The amount sediment that's being supplied the system.

135:05 interesting, it's lowest at the time of of of falling sea levels when

135:13 ice building up in the river is and it's a little bit higher when

135:18 get a bit of melting. Why that? This is the water?

135:24 the glaciers are melting, that's an with water. So. Exactly

135:31 When when the ice is building although the rivers are cutting, there's

135:35 water available because there's more more trapped the ice. But when the ice

135:39 a little bit, it adds a of water to the systems that just

135:42 . And that means the settlement discharge up. So it's kind of a

135:45 between when sediments being supplied the system the cutting is going on. So

135:50 again it kind of so we have relation with a lot of settlements supplied

135:53 the cutting happens and that's when that the rivers to migrate laterally and leave

135:59 sandy channel belts right, a little after the main phase of cutting.

136:06 we get periods of of of widening deepening depending on whether the sea levels

136:15 , whether it's a bit more Okay. And so that also,

136:19 know, so when you got valley , your your your your taking sediment

136:24 shunting that in the deep water versus sediment in the valley. So sometimes

136:29 valley storing sediment and sometimes it's exporting . So that has a lot of

136:36 for when you're getting seven sedimentation, fans. And so for the deepwater

136:41 , they need to know how the fans are reacting to sea level

136:45 And that that's very contingent on the of the rivers. Are they widening

136:50 leaving a trail of of sand behind a deepening and exporting? Right.

136:56 during these times exports occurring during these , Sam is being stored in the

137:01 . Right? So this is what expect your major export to the submarine

137:05 . Right. And it's not always that that's exactly coincides with the CW

137:13 . And then, you know, originally said, sea levels fall,

137:19 they rise and they fall and they , boy, they love that

137:23 You saw the pattern. And I , well, wait a minute.

137:26 paternity is not inside and cycle. got this very, very obvious stepped

137:33 progression low stand extremely rapid transgression. . And sometimes it's symmetrical here

137:42 step forced aggression. A prolonged low , extremely rapid transgression, stepped,

137:49 up the forest regression. You and 20,000 year long low stand at

137:56 incredibly rapid transgression. So I well, actually, You know,

138:01 periods of fall make up about 75% the of the cycle. Uh And

138:09 , you know, falling stage and stand closet should dominate the rock

138:13 Transgressive systems track should be rare because know, so, and Exxon,

138:18 they said, well, wait a . There's a very rapid, very

138:21 time occupied by the falls, very time occupied by the rises all the

138:28 is wrapped up in the low stands the high stands. Uh, and

138:32 not the way the world works. know, the, the high stands

138:34 actually pretty short lived, like the melt and then almost immediately begin to

138:39 up against it. There's no wide stand, Right? I mean that's

138:44 stage. That's not high stand. almost no high stands on these

138:48 It's all falling stage and low So there is to me, there's

138:53 big debate in my mind in terms just what's the preserve ability of those

138:58 versus high stands in the rock That becomes important when deciding how to

139:02 Iraq's. Right. Are you looking low stands within low stands or are

139:06 actual high stands and how much is ? So the conclusion from the Colorado

139:13 , is that the bifurcating pattern that initially thought to be auto genic

139:18 distributor channels over a period of a 1000 years Suddenly became Valley incision due

139:25 a complex step fall over 100,000 And that relates to pleistocene glaciation and

139:31 level changes and has nothing to do auto cycle delta switching and that of

139:36 reflects an incredible overuse of the Mississippi . Okay, okay, let's see

139:50 . I, we're going to take break. I've got a little bit

139:54 estuaries to talk about. And then fairly long talk on Identifying Valleys vs

139:59 your channels in the rock record, must be the concluding part of this

140:03 . A lot of examples. So take about 10 minute break and then

140:06 kind of finish this lecture. So a few words on estuaries, you

140:16 , and and I do these reviews a couple of reasons. Not all

140:20 you have done dr price class and know, it's it's good to,

140:25 know, I mean, he, know, I'm assuming he talked about

140:29 Teresa stuff anyway, so I don't these diagrams because, you know,

140:37 almost too simplistic, but this sort shows, you know, once

140:42 we've got a sonia soil, sea curve, we've already said, you

140:47 , that's probably not the way sea works, but you know, it's

140:50 approximation just to give you an you know, sea level certainly does

140:54 . And the fact that it's not more competent chinese toyed, adds

140:58 but it doesn't mean that systems don't to sea level change, right?

141:02 , you know, you could well, yeah, it's it's good

141:05 know that it's, it's complex, , you know, the concept can

141:10 taught without getting into the all the right away. Anyway, so here

141:15 in the falling stage, Right? sea levels falling. And in this

141:20 we cut the hole, right? we're inside the valley, they were

141:24 lowest down. So we deposited a as some sort of shore line at

141:28 mouth of the valley. Then we to transgress. The valley is closed

141:34 by wave dominated barrier. The river now back stacked and it's dumping a

141:40 at the language out of the valley there's a central basin area, which

141:44 , which is not receiving much flu sediment, maybe some of the clay

141:48 isn't receiving much marine sediment because it's cut off by the barrier.

141:52 so that's going to be filled with stuff. May show some title

141:58 So you get the sort of big bay or mud mud plug.

142:04 And then of course they show it Pie stand and again, here's to

142:07 they make a big error. Because you know, at high

142:14 you know, you get to this here, well now the shorelines gonna

142:16 back here and you're going to get Hiestand deltas, right? And of

142:20 eventually those will go from a to so what they're showing here really

142:29 is more here. You know, end of the high stand where the

142:33 has come back. What I don't about it, it's showing these massive

142:37 that are bigger than the low Right? I mean, you

142:40 so I I don't really think that is right, I was going to

142:45 it. I would probably show it bit differently. But anyway, uh

142:50 lot of folks have looked at modern and they, They commonly show this

142:54 part film where there is mostly marine at the seaward end, alluvial sediments

143:02 the landward end, kind of a of flu viel marine sediments in the

143:07 . Okay, now the term estuary a variety of different definitions. Richard

143:20 it as an area of less than salinity. In other words, any

143:26 water environment according to print it is estuary. Ah Damn. Rempel said

143:31 not very good definition because you can't salinity. Then the trace fossil guys

143:36 along as well actually, you brackish water trace false is very distinct

143:41 freshwater marine. So they were we actually can identify variations in salinity

143:48 develop the brackish water faces model. but dad ripples have had none of

143:53 said no, I'm just going to an estuary as a transgressed valley and

144:02 , and but the word estuary comes the word s trees, which refers

144:08 monthly cycles. Okay, you've heard those, I'm sure. And what

144:15 basically means, it has something to with the moon and that basically means

144:21 . So the word estuary, the, the, the, the

144:24 Entomology of the word, that the of the word estuary implies something to

144:29 with monthly cycles. Right? Which means tides. So you could argue

144:35 estuaries have to show some tidal But anyway, that's, that's and

144:43 polls showed two different models for The wave dominant estuary is basically this

144:50 and it hypothesizes that when a valley being transgressed, if it's a wave

144:55 environment, the mouth of the valley closed by a wave dominated barrier.

145:01 mouth of the valley is closed by wave dominated barrier uh and the river

145:07 upstream dumping obey had delta. And we get the central basements, primarily

145:13 and or thin bedded muds and Darren points out that waves that the

145:20 word of the barrier, you've got wave energy, obviously the language and

145:24 got, you've got river currents coming . But the central basin tends to

145:28 an area of low energy in which means that mud can settle that

145:33 a a non reservoir or low quality faces in a valley field. So

145:39 terms of faces models, you one of the big questions if you

145:43 an incised valley, where is the spot to drill? Where's the best

145:46 reservoir in a wave dominate estuary? best quality reservoirs would be behead delta

145:52 your barrier island. In contrast, you're in a situation like the Bay

145:58 Fundy where the tides are extremely then the tides keep the center of

146:03 estuary open all the time and it's high energy area. So it's filled

146:07 sandy title bars. The mud tends be sequestered on the lateral margins of

146:12 estuary producing extensive mudflats, mudflats. see that the Bay of Fundy,

146:17 see that in turning an arm in . So a lot of tide dominated

146:23 have extensive muddy mud flats on the . And the central area where the

146:29 is coming in at all time is dominated. So in that case your

146:33 sequestered in a very different place. you. Then the boy Darren paul

146:40 the guys, you know, they these general model faces models for incised

146:45 systems and they published this this idea segments. Okay, so they

146:50 well, you know, a valley an outer segment which is the area

146:55 , that's dominantly marine. Then it's an inter segment which is dominantly flu

147:01 , that could have a little bit but still within the valley. And

147:05 it kind of a middle segment where kind of marine full of your

147:07 So that's kind of the, the mixed system uh in the middle.

147:13 got systems tracks. So the low systems track will be the low stand

147:18 and the flu viel part of the filled the marine influence part. That's

147:23 or retro traditional, they would put flooding surface on or transgressive surface or

147:29 regressive surface on top of the low and they would find a transgressive systems

147:35 and once the valley's mostly filled and shore line comes back to where it

147:39 at low stand time. They would that as the high stand. So

147:43 got their sequence boundary. Uh They've their transgressive surface which is also that

147:51 regressive surface kind of the same Uh and then they've got their maximum

147:57 surface. They also show that the can sort of do a lot of

148:02 in that area where the waves and river meet. So you can get

148:06 a transgressive surface of erosion that's below point of maximum flooding. Okay,

148:15 just keep keep these extreme models in because we'll come back to them in

148:19 of these examples. Okay, Another little rest break. We're not

148:26 to take a walk and rest, this is just a good stopping point

148:30 digest. So this, there's a of themes I'm going to talk

148:48 but the main one is on distinguishing torrey channels versus incised valleys ah question

148:57 troubled me greatly and with a couple key examples from the pennsylvania cretaceous.

149:12 in 1992, I have had About actually, ah I was contacted by

149:24 walker, I had finished my PhD he said john we're redoing the textbook

149:31 models published by the Geological Association He said, would you like to

149:37 the chapter on Delta's? I said chapter in the textbook like the most

149:42 sold textbook sediment ology but the highest book ever published by the Geological Association

149:48 Canada that every Canadian student uses and used globally. I said sure,

149:53 know, count me in and we a discussion and he said yeah but

149:58 problem is like you said in the version Andrew marr wrote the chapter on

150:02 said, well just ask Andrew write the chapter on rivers, that's

150:05 baby weight. And so that's what did. Anyway, so I went

150:11 you know, doing a PhD thesis suddenly writing a general overview of delta

150:17 . And I was talking about said , do you know any good examples

150:20 ancient bird foot delta? As he , Yeah, the booze turns out

150:25 mispronounced it my students or you build family boat worked in Oklahoma and told

150:32 it's pronounced the bulk. So so I guess I should be called

150:36 boat delta and dan bush back in sixties and seventies produced these maps of

150:44 pennsylvania and both delta as the classic of an ancient Mississippi type bird foot

150:51 . And so I xerox that diagram stuck it faces bottles very happy.

150:59 that was published in 19 92. think we finally got it published.

151:06 then we wind the clock forward to 8 99 and I get a call

151:14 Henry and roger again. They set we're gonna do sort of a Faces

151:19 was revisited but we're not going to this with the Geological Associated Canada,

151:23 going to publish this as a special of S C. P.

151:28 Would you like to write that Sure, I'll do that one.

151:34 but by that time I was, was getting a bit worried about Bradford

151:40 and I published a bunch of examples Distribute your channels in 1992 and I

151:49 that every single one was an incised , like how I thought, I

151:55 what a distributor channel looks like. all these things I mapped as channels

151:59 trunk channels there brother, part of valley system, they're not at the

152:03 of the system. So then I to go back and look at these

152:06 examples and I said, wait a . The ice APAC says, this

152:12 out 40 ft of sand in these , the channels, A 73 m

152:19 distributor rechannel, that's bigger than the . Now, a distributor channel means

152:27 water from one trunk stream is distributed several or maybe several 100 streams.

152:35 the channels, the further down this system you go, the channel should

152:43 smaller. That's how you're paying attention you answer my question correctly. It's

152:50 meant to be intimidating. It just me know that you understand what I'm

152:55 , Right? So thank you for . I appreciate that. It

153:00 It helps make me believe what I'm , you know? Um, And

153:04 like, well I've never heard of 73 million distributor. Now the Mississippi

153:08 the biggest river North America, you , and this is Panja and maybe

153:13 rivers were that big. I wait a minute. There's all

153:16 all these shoestring sands and they just at the shoestring and like rivers don't

153:24 don't do that. They have mouth . Where's the math bar? There's

153:27 math bars here. And then this area is 0-20 ft of sand.

153:33 like 0-20 ft of sand coming out a 0-20 ft of sand coming out

153:40 a 250 deep channel Mike filled with . Like, I don't get it

153:46 . This is where I began to , wait a minute. The scales

153:50 by this map or nonsense. They make any sense. I said,

153:55 should be buckets of sand coming out novels of these rivers because they're all

153:59 way to the terminal land. Then went back and looked at the cross

154:03 , you know, there wasn't much . So the, the,

154:08 the, the book channels are associated the mcallister sand stones and here you

154:17 . Maybe you've got 1234, five coarsening para sequences that paris sequences.

154:25 of them are completely cut out. top of one is partly cut out

154:29 this kind of blocky to maybe finding looking sandstone. The Sandstone is 100

154:39 thick, maybe that's not a maybe that's a multistory system. So

154:48 said, there's a mismatch between the of the adjacent upward cautioning delta front

154:54 that these quote distributor channels erode So I said, you know,

155:01 are probably better interpreters in size Okay, mm hmm. So the

155:08 example I put in my chapter on models as a bird foot delta was

155:14 cleaves and Broussard working on the molding , a Pennsylvanian age once again.

155:22 where the heck is this Alabama? know, remember I was at a

155:28 , the source of the same source sync conference when I met this guy

155:31 was a pathologist at case Western Reserve said, what do you think that

155:37 ? He said, Oh, Incised valley once again. How is

155:43 that you've got no no lobes of coming out of these fingers? Why

155:49 it only the fingers are preserved? should be, there should be fringing

155:53 front sands coming out of all these very channels also kind of. I

155:58 , well, you know, they the flow is the river is flowing

156:02 northwest to southeast. Could that be system going in the opposite direction and

156:10 thickness of these elongate shoestring sand interpreters, distributor channels are 300 ft

156:17 . Well, that's, that's another m deep. Delta. North America

156:23 the pennsylvania, maybe it's Pangea could . So This is a diagram from

156:32 Harms in 1956. And ah actually said this for some years, but

156:43 157% finished. This is Ron Boys based on harms and I think harms

156:50 that these things might be in size . Notice that there's, you

156:54 upward coarsening pair sequences outside the a couple of them and the valley

157:00 much thicker multistory overall, he finds finds upward and erodes into at least

157:08 full pair sequences. There's a mismatch the thickness of the, of the

157:13 finding quote channel Phil and the marine that it's supposed to be associated with

157:21 it's not associated in its cutting them . There's no genetic relationship between this

157:25 upward unit and the rocks adjacent to . So Don Bowen. And ah

157:34 think paul Weimer remap these pennsylvania systems forced them to show a tributary

157:43 So now the delta is a tributary valley lee Christine X. Don't work

157:50 these. He found all sorts of halls. Uh so people have gone

157:56 and looked at this and and clearly reinterpreted as all these pennsylvania systems as

158:02 valleys. The Pennsylvanian folks is also time of the late paleozoic ice

158:09 most have gone to wonderland was in South Pole and there were massive ice

158:13 that grew and and and and retreated they caused extremely high amplitude sea level

158:20 worldwide. So pennsylvania systems in general characterized by marine lime stones eroded by

158:28 valleys. You see that west You see that Oklahoma, you see

158:32 in Alabama, you see that in , you see that in England

158:40 brian Willis who I work with. this was before I worked with him

158:45 was working on another system, interpret a delta burke delta in Wyoming.

158:53 this is the fall river sandstone. Wyoming and north yeah, north Dakota

158:59 think. And it was originally interpreted uh a bird foot delta O'brien reinterpreted

159:08 incised valleys. So the delta interpretation based on maps like these bifurcating shoestring

159:18 . And here is the well log section. We have a sharp based

159:23 upward system and adjacent to it or upward coarsening para sequences. And see

159:33 few of them here. Okay. there's again, clearly a mismatch between

159:38 thick upward fighting unit and the thinner coursing units. It cuts into.

159:43 interpret this as some sort of a meandering channel with levees that inter fingered

159:48 these upward coarsening units. I've looked those in course they're filled with Nikki

159:53 stratification, marine fossils and they're not not floodplain at all. Right,

159:59 faces interpretations made no sense. What's interesting look at the bifurcation

160:05 Mhm. Do you see any wells ? Right. So they have

160:12 you know what I'm saying? I'm saying, why would force us to

160:15 join. Right, so the distributive is forced. You know, it's

160:23 problem with subsurface data. All you is a bunch of holes. You

160:26 to choose how to connect them right? In this case they chose

160:29 delta model and connected them up in distributor the fat pattern. Anyway,

160:37 that sort of says what I thick quote channels eroding into thin upper

160:43 something or other. Let's make it delta. So there's their detailed maps

160:47 there there's the map of the of of the entire powder river basin in

160:52 fall river. And you know, looks like my looks like my my

160:59 black walmart in the wintertime. once again you've got shoestrings and there's

161:06 fringing sand. Like how come there's mouth balls? What's wrong with these

161:10 ? Don't they? Like mouth What about what about a little bit

161:13 a wave dominated sand? I mean do you get these birds put doubts

161:19 the cretaceous. See you in any it's a storm wave dominated sea wave

161:24 course, give it to a good . It kind of looks realistic I

161:27 . You know, So that's the of the delta and okay, they

161:31 some barriers on the margin, but know, little barrier island there,

161:36 not really clear where the hell that and will stand that. But

161:40 and of course why do they make interpretation that's because you know, in

161:43 fifties, sixties and seventies and even eighties, you know, every delta

161:47 in Mississippi and the Mississippi is a for it. There it is.

161:50 just stick that, stick that in , you know, stick down the

161:53 cement, right? You know, ever heard of the *** delta,

161:56 forbid, you know, which might be a better analog, right or

162:00 else, You know? And of , you know, the Mississippi delta

162:04 deep distributor channels all the way to coast. And people forget that there's

162:09 lot of sediment that fringes the Mississippi there's a sub Aquarius component to the

162:15 the to the sediments that's kind of . So they're using just the platform

162:19 the wetlands and then calling that to sand distribution of that. That doesn't

162:24 a whole lot of sense to me and missing is a dominated system.

162:28 scale of the Mississippi is not appropriate may not be. And of course

162:35 interior parks are shallow and don't have shelf slope break and again they have

162:40 fringing sand. So of course brian back and revisited the outcrops. I

162:47 a lot of work on ropes and know, to sort of make the

162:51 short identified these in fact were incised with some questions as to whether the

162:58 descended from one surface or that whether were different valleys of different ages.

163:05 that's why I put a question mark . I think the valley probably extends

163:09 that surface there. But, and here's an example of some of his

163:13 sections and hopefully you can see But uh that that these arrows represent

163:20 currents. But more importantly, you sort of see one up and finding

163:28 awkward finding another awkward finding. So is just like your exercise and so

163:37 have their evidence of multiple stacked, up, finding a prophecy successions.

163:43 of them had ah floodplain and abandoned fill in them. So you've got

163:49 full preserved channel Phil and uh and interpret this as a valley system.

163:56 I talked about simple versus compound Clearly this is a compound valley

164:02 multiple episodes of cut and fill. he interpreted as a large aggregation of

164:08 as opposed to a degradation of How interesting the valley and individual valley

164:15 1050, about 20 m deep. they're not super huge, right?

164:21 the average shore faces. Cretaceous interior gets to it about 20 m.

164:26 when you drop the sea level in margin, the biggest nick point,

164:29 exposed to the shore face. There's there's a flat area, a

164:33 m short face and then a flat . That short face could be about

164:37 or same as the shelf slope . And so the valleys in the

164:41 interior seaway typically are about the scale a short face because that's the nick

164:49 that gets exposed. So back to example, again, you know,

164:53 the well logs that show the upward on the sides and then a nice

164:58 based finding upper unit middle. That out that this family is related to

165:05 , the oil sands. In other , this is the same river that

165:11 all of north America. Okay, is, it's this river here,

165:22 the fall river. So ah the area is kind of in, it's

165:31 of in here. So it's probably tributary branch of the system that ends

165:37 in the Manville, but it's a hefty tributary. Okay, so

165:42 so the fall river channel, they're pretty big in general and brian worked

165:49 the outcrops, the pattern of basin into and even the map that

165:54 you know, fairly big incised river there, the shoreline is hundreds of

166:00 away. So there's a 10 on scale there. So, you know

166:13 channel was 30, 30, 40 deep. It's a pretty good sized

166:19 . And interesting what that means is because it's a really big river,

166:22 it is a 20 m seat of fall plus a 30 m river cut

166:26 a 30 40 m deep hole. ? So it's hard to get super

166:30 story, but you can do But anyway, and so going back

166:47 this slide here, I emphasized the by which you can identify valley,

166:53 know, a much thicker finding up the unit cutting into several pair sequences

166:59 I show in the two right hand , that diagram was directed by bryan

167:06 based on the work that brian Willis on the far river. Okay,

167:09 it's not surprising that those diagrams So he noticed that some of the

167:15 , so he noticed that there were amalgamated valleys. The lower valley is

167:20 a simple cut and fill. The valley represents a value that cut then

167:24 , then cut again and narrowed and filled finally. So it's got three

167:29 of cut and fill and some of phils have a lot of flu viel

167:35 the bottom with todd influenced and then on top. So marine base will

167:41 with increasing marine upwards. Some of films are eschewing from the top to

167:45 bottom. And so Bryant has said of the films seemed to be more

167:52 marine filled, all of them seem be more alluvial filled in some kind

167:55 mixed. And so he had this that some of the, some of

168:00 valley fills tend to have, but major, the major flooding at the

168:04 of the valley. So we call flood capped and in which the values

168:10 largely filled with river deposits and the only at the top and some of

168:13 other valleys were festering sort of all way through. And he called those

168:18 based valleys. Okay. And then got his secret cryptographic cross sections for

168:24 flood capped valley fill versus flood based in the flood cat valley fill there

168:29 a lot more sandy flew viel Phil the flood based the valleys are filled

168:34 more estuarine faces. And going back that the faces model, we sort

168:41 wondered could that mean that some valleys a bit more proximal and distal or

168:46 it mean some valleys have stronger tides other valleys weaker tied. So there

168:50 be different explanations for why these valleys more or less estuary faces.

169:00 Now one of the difficulties with secret is, is what to do with

169:07 , with the valley floor as you see it. Okay, Because eventually

169:14 river has become un incised and they distributor channels and deltas. Right?

169:19 here's a cross section which you've got low stand valley, The valley floor

169:23 rising as you go towards the You might get an area of deeper

169:28 because that backwater effect. But at point, you know, the river

169:32 up feeding distributor channels. So I'm showing that it's kind of a

169:37 , right? A series of distributor associated with an degrading pro grading delta

169:43 , which is the yellow unit, is your upper coursing profile. Notice

169:47 the distributor channel of red sits within upper coarsening. Okay. And of

169:53 that invites a possibility. What was is when I was published in my

169:59 many decades ago, this guy, told you the story, this guy

170:02 Exxon was really trying to push me put the sequence boundary on top of

170:07 sandstone. I said, no, brown Wagner says I should put it

170:11 the sandstone into a correlative conformity. and so I decided to disagree with

170:18 advice from the Exxon reviewer to put sequence boundary on top of the sand

170:24 . And I'm gonna explain why that's in a minute. So, some

170:32 good work done by Ron Steele's research when he was a professor at UT

170:38 . Amazing outcrops in Spitsbergen and uh Norway, ah Spitsbergen and these are

170:48 owned by Norway. And it shows size channels and and and and mouth

170:56 channels which the sort of light green . And they correlates a submarine

171:03 And they're at a shelf slope so that the distributor channel is as

171:07 sebaceous counterpart. And there's clearly hi and low stands. It's and so

171:18 do have a sequence boundary, that's red surface. But look at all

171:21 subsidiary surfaces that are peeling out of sequence boundary, right? When we

171:27 about forced regressions Maybe surface one is first step fall and the sequence boundaries

171:34 culmination. And so you get these like, well, wait a

171:37 Maybe, maybe four should be the boundary, maybe five or six.

171:42 the idea that you can simply correlate surfaces when they so the erosion

171:47 our top lapping against the red surface then they're peeling out as you go

171:53 , resulting in extremely complicated lap part of a variety of clustered irrational

171:59 Good luck and good luck picking up sequence boundary. But ultimately these correlate

172:04 with submarine lobes and sheets. Which is the exploration target, which

172:09 landed emotional surface do they correlate And it can be tricky to

172:15 So here's what gets weird despite the that john Van Wagner clearly said,

172:22 sequence spanish should go below the paris to become a correlative conformity. For

172:29 I'm not clear about. That's not he did. When he did the

172:32 Close Photography, he tipped out of boundaries on top of the deltas.

172:38 ended up with a very strange which I'm going to repeat in the

172:41 lecture, which will probably get to . Okay, he put the sequence

172:48 on top of the deltas. So had low stand valleys that just disappeared

172:56 no deltas that they fed eroding into that have no channels feeding. I

173:06 , that's nonsense. That can't be . But that was the interpretation as

173:11 can see this cross section, all red colors are incised valleys, all

173:15 yellow is delta and pro deltas. you notice that the, that the

173:23 , The Saas Valley faces all tip to a 00 point. And he

173:29 all of the red colored faces as stems and all the yellow and gray

173:37 high stance. And I went ahead put together some wheeler diagrams to illustrate

173:45 time strata, graphic relationships required by Van Wagner's sequence strata, graphic interpretation

173:51 the book, cliffs and in a space you can clearly see you've got

173:55 these lovely sands and shales of a origin, but no river deposits feeding

174:01 . And we've got all these low valley fills that don't feed me

174:06 Okay. The solution of course, to is to split the desert to

174:10 channels and channel belts and then relax ages and then you'll start to get

174:15 that makes makes sense. So, the same book that John Van Wagner

174:22 , he showed this diagram and complained negatively that this was a terribly dreadful

174:29 ST a graphic interpretation and wrong. again disagreed. Foundational e with Van

174:36 point here, I was a bit , he was allowed to publish

174:41 but, you know, it was by a PG in a book that

174:44 paid for in reviewers, john Wagner Wagner Wagner was an editor of the

174:49 . He put the paper in his the book that he edited and he

174:53 sure the review is, we're going accept his opinion. I mean it

174:57 really dreadful. You know, find and say, no, this is

175:01 sequence of photographic interpretation that's not And it's different from yours. And

175:07 made a wheeler diagram to show different , different valleys, feeding different

175:12 right? Uh and I so I no, that the sequence bounties

175:17 So there's your sequence boundary and then is my little zigzag that shows that

175:22 sequence boundary turns to karachi conformity and the river deposits become co evil to

175:28 deltas that they feed. And that's illustrated with the wheel of Viagra.

175:35 question is why is it difficult to out, why is it so easy

175:38 tip out the sequence boundary on top the delta? You know, unless

175:42 have an incised valley cross section that exactly down dip. You know,

175:47 it's gonna cut across the valley margins even here. And so it's

175:53 you know, that could be a valley margin if the cross section goes

175:58 , because you're now you're into the flu. Um but then you go

176:02 down the acts of the delta or it. So it goes down the

176:05 . It could be difficult for someone sticking to the base, but that's

176:08 you really should do. Yeah, , we're now coming up to my

176:21 point or a main point. and it goes back to this,

176:28 kind of personal crisis I had, call it my 1992 crisis where I

176:33 something I published 92 was just completely . And I'm gonna show you some

176:38 these wrong interpretations, I think a bit later. No, I won't

176:42 I talked about those, We'll see . Anyway. Um, so I

176:46 interpreted these big trump valleys that feed Dunvegan formation as an incised valley.

176:52 I talked about that last week and published those incised valley as distributor channel

176:58 , oh no, those room sized . And I said, you

177:02 I don't know what a distributor channel like. I just have no

177:06 So I started looking at modern deltas said, well, okay, let's

177:09 look at some modern deltas and figure about about distributor chances, holy

177:15 Look at the leaner, there is incised valley with bedrock on either

177:19 then the bedrock ends here. So the river starts to bifurcate,

177:24 You've got, you know, stream in that direction, kind of

177:28 sprawled stream going in this direction, going here and then one wrapping around

177:34 , right? That's the first order , then the second order split,

177:38 then, and then you can follow of these threads and splits again and

177:42 it splits again. And when you to the terminal land, The,

177:47 channels have split eight times, So the terminal distributor channels are represented

177:54 orders of splitting. And so the distributor channels or orders of management smaller

178:01 the trunk challenge started with and they're little piddly things that are a few

178:06 deep And maybe 10 m wide. the Trunk River may have been 20

178:10 deep and a km wide. now then I just did a thought

178:16 . I like doing thought experiments once a while and said, just imagine

178:20 I had, I don't know a of holes, drill holes in that

178:25 and I just did a sandman. is what the map would look

178:30 Now that looked to me looks like wave dominated delta clearly isn't right.

178:35 I would say, oh, that's nice margin of sand. No,

178:37 clearly isn't. It's filled with little floodplain lakes. This is a

178:42 , but if there was tides in . So, I mean, it

178:46 map as a simple sound, but would be a very that map would

178:51 a lot of complexity. Okay. so in petroleum geology, you

178:58 these general Mattis we make based on can hide a lot of complexity and

179:05 had an extremely successful, happy, funded career explaining to engineers and geologists

179:14 their maps are very simple and working them to put the complexity in the

179:19 models. So they get the fluid right? And know how to place

179:22 wells right? That's not secret but, you know, the first

179:26 is getting the correlations right? ultimately to kind of figure out what

179:29 internal complexity is, Right? And of course like this depending on how

179:34 focused you are. You know, why you're getting not only sequence

179:38 you're also getting faces models because you've to kind of start putting things

179:43 And then I gave this talk in I said, you know, all

179:49 distributor channel models are wrong. I , deltas grow by sort of growing

179:57 growing and the areas get bigger and and bigger. This is a set

180:02 mythology ideas. So, I give in another course. And I

180:07 you know, you know, I , delta's don't reprogrammed. They build

180:11 build outward and laterally. They just bigger and eventually, unless there's a

180:16 on the change, they get too and they just go somewhere else.

180:19 ? So there's a theoretical limit as how far delta can regress before it

180:24 switches somewhere else. And so I Dave Jamieson. So you're saying the

180:29 don't re progressive, but not No, Delta just can't pro grade

180:33 . Because if the water gets that the combination is too big.

180:38 they just they laterally switch. I , it's again, it's it's it's

180:42 got big. They start to annoy channels that's feeding them and eventually they

180:47 of triggered revulsion. So, we're back to what causes the vultures

180:51 the growing delta load. It's kind like, you know, uh,

180:58 know, like sticking fingers in your . There's too many fingers can't talk

181:02 . You got to go somewhere right? That's not good analogy.

181:05 anyway, but but I said, know, you know, we're interested

181:11 strictly in understanding why delegates the landward seaward and how much that is controlled

181:16 just the system has enough settlement versus , it can't progressed that far.

181:20 it programs that far, there had be something that pulled it right.

181:25 so it forced to start thinking about theoretic limits of probation based on no

181:32 of sea level versus what you need get it to move and how that

181:38 to the scales of channels that have . Now, James is talking at

181:44 at a, at a every four , they have a meeting that looks

181:48 rivers Delta Research River research meetings. one supposed to happen this summer.

181:53 it was, it was postponed again of Covid. And mary Kraus was

181:58 my talk. He said that was great talk. You should publish

182:01 That Js are, it didn't take right away. I said,

182:07 that's a good idea. But it's a half baked. So Carla Lori

182:10 my PhD student. So why don't work on that problem? And he

182:13 a great job. He looked at Systems, previous literature and did a

182:17 of outcrop work and this amazing. so here's an example of the the

182:23 Delta above, which is a small of the Mississippi and the Mississippi

182:29 And what he points out is to these upper coarsening faces successions in the

182:34 . And he points out that the occupy a little bit of the paris

182:39 . And so they're kind of buried the well log, right. And

182:43 why I realized. The problem I is when I was defining distributor challenges

182:49 grad student, the only thing I pick was something that was big enough

182:52 be seen and it was big enough be seen. That means it had

182:55 be big in the paris sequence. than otherwise, it was just a

182:58 , just a little bit of coarse in the middle of a parent

183:02 So I said, I don't know , I don't know what, I

183:04 know what distribution channels look like. then I said, wait a

183:07 The best place to go look for channels outcrops because then you can see

183:11 the clip of sandstone distribute, you see the distributor channel that very

183:16 And I've done buckets of research and lots of papers that describe what distributor

183:20 looked like as a component of a sandy or upward coarsening para secrets.

183:26 not gonna give you those examples today it's too much sediment ology. But

183:31 you can, I can, we time, I could show you a

183:34 of examples tomorrow. And also explain my my my distributional channel stopped before

183:40 end of the sand because there's there's distributor channels, whoops, you should

183:46 them in there. You know, the distribution channels are here,

183:50 They're too small to be resolved with well logs that I had. And

184:06 hard for me to know how many them are or there were.

184:09 so that sort of resolve that And then of course, you

184:14 there's the base of the valley, ? But the low stand delta,

184:20 feeds, it shifted and you this area here is the area of

184:26 distributor channel become narrow, shallow And when the sea came back across

184:32 caesarea, it actually eroded away some those shallow term of this tributary

184:37 And and in the case of the cliffs, the bypass zone, the

184:43 cliffs that that Simon patterson worked on wave dominated and the depth of transgressive

184:49 is quite extreme. The valleys are detached from the low stand deltas that

184:53 feed. And I, you I've shown these slides before. And

184:59 sort of explains the process where you've a little erosion. The depth of

185:03 erosion is linked to the depth of increase in slope, which is the

185:08 point exposed by the drop of sea . And that's only 20 m when

185:13 come back across the top, they easily rode, rode away 8 to

185:17 or 10 to 15 m, so can erode away almost all of the

185:23 , allele degradation all channels. The stuff they leave behind is the gravels

185:27 be moved. They wash those around bit. Remember I showed you all

185:31 pictures of gravel beds, but they originally transported. Rivers formed incised valleys

185:38 the valley is largely gone. And only record left is the few bits

185:42 pieces that were really big. The carried that couldn't be erased or removed

185:47 transgression. And that results in these low stands that that make this isolated

185:53 body that was fed by river. been detached. And now you've got

185:57 beautiful strata graphic trap, this is sand body over land by sealing shales

186:03 by sealing shales. It tilted a , you get the billion barrel Kardian

186:08 , right? And of course it interpreted as what kind of a system

186:11 the 70s. You remember they give whole lecture on this last week.

186:16 was the original interpretation of these isolated stones in the middle of the

186:24 And then remember remember that lecture, think I gave four or 5 interpretations

186:30 sand bodies. Remember any of Oh, so it was the prevailing

186:47 of these Sand stones in the middle the shelf back in the 70s.

186:57 if you guys can remember and that a newer that was a sequence interpretation

187:15 before sequence photography, how they interpreted . Remember at this diagram but shelf

187:52 , we have some shorelines and then had these sand stones in the middle

187:59 the shelf. What was the prevailing of those sand stones in the

188:07 Exactly right. Distal auto. The is that they were interpreted photogenic some

188:14 shelf process magically built this bar of in the middle of the shelves by

188:20 traffic flows interacting with tidal processes. we wiped out that interpretation and replaced

188:29 . Now the scene over dropped, the sand there, but it ripped

188:34 the top. That was my my on top, truncated uh lo stands

188:39 mid stands. Right? What's And we'll see if we have

188:45 You know, we can do some tomorrow. Okay. I do have

188:50 electron shells and all the processes that thought to apply to these offshore bars

188:58 do cause mud to move on the . And that's very important to people

189:04 for mud, mud plays right, not sound unfortunately, or if it

189:08 sad, it's just a very fine . Anyway, so the point is

189:13 history channels are small contained with the contained within the paris sequence on the

189:19 and they broadly conform to walther's Even that little scour valley floors violate

189:25 law by putting flu real rocks over marine rocks that cut deep into paris

189:31 . So there's a mismatch between the of the fill and the paris

189:36 They cut into transgression. Can remove , distributor channels and it can cause

189:44 of the trunk valley from its low delta that feeds and there are

189:50 It's not really a conclusion. It's an add on in wave dominate

189:54 humanity get one or two channels. there are situations where you can get

189:57 rivers that get all the way to sea. Ah and and of course

190:03 big rivers kind of size quite deep the shore line, especially with excess

190:08 , especially when they're in flood because the backwater causes them to dig

190:13 downstream out. These may resemble They typically won't be multistory. And

190:20 I didn't talk about this braided rivers tributary channels come together, you can

190:26 very deep scours at the tributary Those can look like multi story

190:33 values. There's been some papers and which have irritated me that say you

190:38 get multistory sand stones and consulates scours their nonsense. You get a big

190:43 scour. All you get is a bar. You don't get five stacked

190:48 when five rivers come together, get deep hole and it feels almost like

190:51 delta with a big four set. , and we've gone back and demonstrate

190:55 with good field work. So okay, that's it. Um We're

191:02 5:00. Have one more lecture to . I can probably get through it

191:07 today. So let's take a little minute break. Is that okay?

191:12 then we'll start the last lecture, see how far again and well,

191:17 know, Maybe and a little bit , maybe 15, 20 minutes early

191:21 something. I'll just see how far is. So it's on the black

191:34 , like there's a mhm in black and blackboard. You get this

191:48 Yeah, I got all of them there. Oh, I see.

191:53 . Okay. And We've got two scheduled which isn't gonna take all day

192:02 , but I do have some options things we could talk about if you

192:07 , we can talk about some of subjects that you might want some more

192:12 . It's not the kind of stuff would usually test on, but it

192:14 give you some some broader understanding of it's mud stones or carbonates or

192:22 So, the book cliffs has been central area of interest and uh,

192:31 in sequence photography and mm hmm. is, I've already kind of mentioned

192:41 of this. So, here's what rocks look like. This is

192:44 the castle gate at the castle gate it's a beautiful thick better 34 100-foot

192:53 of amalgamated sand widely interpreted as Brandon uh the the area below it where

193:01 can see all the rocks as muddy ah and is the Blackhawk formation the

193:09 is razor sharp. My sharp contact amalgamated alluvial systems above and floodplain dominated

193:18 . If you turn around, that's the black hawk looks like, filled

193:21 black holes. You can see these uh single thread meandering streams.

193:29 Okay. And so indeed, you the, the, the the,

193:33 black hole here looks like it's single streams with well developed lateral accretion

193:41 You go to simulate rocks in southern , the john Henry and the drip

193:48 member. Uh And once again you see a razor sharp contact separating amalgamated

193:55 viel deposits above amalgamated channel belt deposits highlight too gross from a muddy the

194:03 john Henry. If you look you can see some single channels,

194:14 ? Some lateral creation there, you see a little channel belt. And

194:22 was keith shanley's PhD area and that's he kind of got his idea that

194:30 get a sequence boundary over land by sands. He saw some tidal influence

194:35 and there at the top of the and then units like john Henry in

194:39 black Hawk, a mud, mud floodplain dominated. And of course they

194:45 promoted the idea that that low stand were low sanur city braided rivers and

194:51 channels were Hi Cynthia City meandering And this idea was was promoted by

195:01 Wagner who specifically said that low our sand dominated, multistory amalgamated braided

195:08 as as labeled on his diagram. he interpreted the high stand and transgressive

195:15 as single story lateral recruiting point which means he thought they were single

195:20 meandering channels. Yeah. And then course harks back to this idea that

195:26 channels make money, flavia deposits and channels make sand and gravel dominate

195:33 Yet we know from the newer theory the net to gross is controlled by

195:38 frequency migration rate and the degree of and subsidence on the floodplain.

195:45 Okay, now Van Wagner is kind a hazel slide. So, I

195:53 clearly remember him showing this slide at talk at a PG meeting. He

195:59 waving his arms and he's talking about casket rivers losing all the water because

196:05 was a very air environment. And was this big climate change and the

196:08 is just kind of stopped in the of this kind of uh, shadow

196:13 and swampy area. Not sure I a swamp sobriety. He claimed the

196:18 in the channels filtered into the underlying and evaporate. The water just disappeared

196:26 . Um, and this was his of explaining that the un conformity tipped

196:30 on top of the marine sequences Okay. And I thought,

196:37 they also said that he thinks, know, he interpreted as a terminal

196:41 fan, whatever that is. And , you know, coarse grained alluvial

196:45 , you know, closer to the end. So I thought,

196:50 you know, maybe I should look the council Blackhawk contact in this area

196:56 . So that's what I did. , so, you know, Van

197:02 , you know, gave the Mm hmm. He said the Castle

197:07 was deposited in a more arid more arid environment compared to black

197:13 The black hawk has cold, so has to be humid. And he

197:18 , you know, the Castle Gate many rivers in an arid environment because

197:22 was a braided system. But the hawk had fewer rivers meandering system and

197:26 was humid. You got that got , the difference between the interpretations.

197:34 if the Castle gate is an arid mega fan braided and the black hawk

197:40 a wetland muck dominated, meandering rivers less rivers, which river should be

197:49 . The calculator, Blackout Blackhawk, Black Hawk has more water and less

198:01 gotta be bigger. Right on on a channel by channel basis.

198:04 testable by looking at the scale of between the two formations. So,

198:10 the Castle Gate should have more They should be wider and shallower,

198:15 should be shallower and the scales of forms and sedimentary structures should be

198:22 Okay, so now we have a . Of course, yes, we're

198:26 in the foreland basin. I kind showed you these diagrams already, or

198:30 versions in general. You know, overall probation is from west to

198:38 It turns out that's actually a little of a of a That's not right

198:43 . But that was the general paleo for the Blackhawks and casket. They

198:46 always kind of map together way back our early days of meeting with each

198:55 online, I gave a talk on graphic norman clay church. And of

199:00 here is the black and white diagrams show the various schemes for naming the

199:07 and casket and the various formations Right? And rather than go to

199:15 black and white ones, I'll just three. So here's one of the

199:20 ones. This is Wheeler Mallory in and the black hawk is divided

199:24 into sandstone and shale members. in which the shale members are separated

199:32 the market share with an arbitrary vertical off as we talked about. Now

199:38 1957, young uh, began to these tongues of, So here's the

199:48 formation and it's broken up into Spring , Aberdeen, Kenworth members. And

199:53 spring canyon consists of 12345. Aw sandy tongues and he's got a sharp

200:02 on top and a gradation of This is pretty good work from

200:08 So he didn't draw shamanism line. draw a dash line saying,

200:12 the sandstone grades into the, into shale and the top of the,

200:18 these tongues are sharp and they and correlate language into coles. So now

200:23 see that he didn't call the flooding . That's what is. So he

200:27 identified a parasite into the flooding surface the language equivalent into a cold.

200:33 , he did notice that the Castle was everywhere a sharp contact with the

200:38 black hole. And he just he distinguished this inter tugging of non

200:43 Blackhawk and green that passed into short and deltas and ultimately into pro delta

200:50 . So he's got the inland The Laguna faces the literal marine,

200:55 is sand and then the marine which shale. Then we took a step

201:01 in complexity In the 1972 rather than these very vague terms like inland lagoons

201:07 literal marine marine. Now you start see flu real faces. Delta,

201:11 faces, shorelines, faces, delta faces and everything is just one big

201:17 . Okay, and now the Castle is shown as having a spasm relationship

201:22 the black hole black hole. No conformity whatsoever. No pair of

201:28 Just one big fat cheese omelet. , so to me this is a

201:33 back, but this is what people , this is you know what people

201:36 face these analysis. They forgot about and we were very focused on showing

201:41 environments in much more detail, but think they did a worse job than

201:46 . So, I think this is . Anyway, let me get this

201:51 photography and in the Van Wagner sequence . He just kind of stuffed all

201:57 the flu viel into a valley and of the kind of delta to shore

202:01 into a into a high step. he tried to indicate how he thought

202:07 occurred. So here's kind of pro of a unit and then there's a

202:11 system. But the valley never feeds that's overline by another set of paris

202:16 . Then there's a second seat of fall that cuts out all the high

202:21 of this unit and cuts into the stand of the older unit, forming

202:25 low stand valley system. But for reason, then he's got this weird

202:30 level curve. So it's low here high and then falling again. And

202:34 court that fall cuts the second low . And it sort of looks like

202:40 so he's gotta step step, he's these steps sea level rise and then

202:48 . The shape is the exact opposite a fraternity set of the following.

202:52 so then he published this diagram, annoyed me greatly comparing the sequences photographic

202:58 on top with the quote little photography on the bottom. This of

203:04 is all nonsense. Uh and his of the sequence photography, he's got

203:11 casket desert Hiestand sequences feeding as landward they erode into high stand. Uh

203:22 high stands of the grass and desert , but never the Twain shall meet

203:27 rivers don't feed any deltas and deltas fed by many rivers. So it's

203:32 of a very strange looking correlation. I said, well maybe that's not

203:38 little strata. Graphic interpretation. Maybe just a different sequence data, graphic

203:42 to yours, in which we have , you know, incised rivers,

203:47 low stand, deltas in a low , pro delta. It's mostly all

203:50 stand, not much high stand. this interpretation, the different little faces

203:55 placed in the same sequence in Van view, that the different little faces

204:02 placed in different sequences. So all marine shells and marine sand stones are

204:06 in a high stand and all the viel stuffed into a low stand

204:11 Low stand systems track. Anyway, we thought, well let's go ahead

204:17 test just whether or not there's even difference between the castle gate Blackhawk in

204:22 of size and scales channels. you know, most of the regional

204:28 is focused on the distal area where got this thick clip of of casket

204:34 on top of a bunch of marine sequences. And indeed there's, there's

204:39 in the, in the desert, fossils in the tongue. It looks

204:42 there may be some zones missing. not. So what's not so clear

204:47 happening with the casket marine. So the casket flew viel sits on the

204:52 viel black hole. All the previous focus on these areas and very little

204:58 the question mark. So I well let's let's look at that more

205:02 area that's well exposed along Solano Canyon Several 100 km from this area,

205:11 is where all the previous work was . So we thought, let's look

205:14 this area and in Solano Canyon, looks exactly the same as at the

205:20 gate 100 kilometers away. A big of sandstone overlying the muddy Blackhawk floodplain

205:27 flavia. And there's a nice razor contact that separates very little bit of

205:33 has been done in the Black suggesting amalgamated braided rivers. That this

205:38 a massive degree at Brigham Young. a very detailed study never published.

205:43 Justin thesis, there's James Mccracken, buddy of mine looking at the

205:49 there's Dave Macdonald at from the University Aberdeen. These massive accretion sets.

205:57 and stand next to cross bedded sand . And this is part of a

206:03 sand body there you can see that large accretion set that passes into cross

206:11 . So in our study area we a section that was parallel to the

206:15 . The section that was perpendicular flow Based on about 90 to pay the

206:21 measurements. Uh, the parent currents northwest to southeast, the Blackhawk Pro

206:29 in that direction. There's about a difference in the Perry current. That's

206:36 because that pain. The current difference that you've got change in the tilt

206:42 the landscape that suddenly starts to smell a tectonic feature. We also looked

206:48 some thin sections to look at the . We had a bunch of four

206:54 X. And we had, you , a bunch of standard grain

206:58 purely currents are a lot of good . So here's a close up of

207:02 dip section parallel to flow and you see that there is an elongate cliff

207:07 Blackhawk, some floodplain, another Black Channel and then it's over land by

207:13 Castle Gate. Okay, the diagram the bottom just shows the general mapping

207:17 the channel belts. The Black Hawk belts are about 5 to 8 m

207:22 . The cascade channel belts are more And they range from 4 to 7

207:27 thick right away. You'll notice that not a big difference between the scale

207:31 the finding of the finding upward units the Black Hawk versus Castle Gate kind

207:36 , you know, Somewhere between 4-8 . Stick all in. The Black

207:40 might be a little bit bigger, is what was predicted based on the

207:44 story, but not that much We go around the corner now the

207:49 is coming towards you. The middle Channel belt pinched out completely and the

207:54 one is wide. So it goes the whole study area study area is

207:58 that big. This is maybe a m or so of, of

208:04 So the Blackhawk channels very nice. see beautiful trough cross bedded sand stones

208:10 the basil channel overlying these gray but it is filled with plant

208:17 wow, these photographs of myself see faces all these nice faces, photographs

208:27 floodplains. It's a beautiful climbing current sand stones, typical crevasse plays some

208:35 footprints, plant material indicating a humid floodplain. So this is what

208:41 thin sections look like, interestingly. Castle Gate on the on the right

208:46 all courts of course, at The Blackhawk is elliptical tonight with 25%

208:53 fragments. Again, if the Castle environment was arid as Van Wagner

209:01 you shouldn't have chemical weathering. So the providence is the same, you

209:05 have more carbonate. The casket. Black Hawk is a more human

209:09 You expect more chemical weathering of so you might not get as much

209:14 as a rock fragments, but in , you see exactly opposite composition as

209:20 expect from the climate story. the short story is the Castle gate

209:25 a completely different composition again, implying got a different tectonic provenance. So

209:31 lifted up and exposed. But what is exposed, This court's Novak you

209:36 and that is largely what feels feeds castle gate. And even the

209:41 the cascade has kind of a creamy color and the Cat and the Black

209:45 looks a bit a bit more So this sort of third step was

209:52 start looking at the faces architecture. I'm hoping that Bill probably talked about

209:57 kind of, you know, diagrams betting geometries that allow you to identify

210:02 the geographic elements that build de positional . And in rivers, you've got

210:07 forms like ripples and dunes that form that can create lateral downstream, that

210:13 channels to make channel belts that can to make larger settlement bodies.

210:20 And we can distinguish bank attacked point from mid channel braid bars. So

210:27 a betting diagram that Michael did on dip view. Beautiful downstream. Accreting

210:33 downstream recruiting bars, majestic braiding. do have areas where you've got little

210:40 . She knows those are confluence So when, when to, when

210:45 stream splits around a braid bar, splits. That's called the different zone

210:50 it converges in the consulate's own. cuts a little scour and that's what

210:53 look like. Those little little little deeper cuts, right in some places

210:58 got ripples overline cross beds. And we think the ripples of the upper

211:03 stage. So you have, if have ripples over cross beds, then

211:07 can interpret that as a complete bar . Of course the critical thing to

211:12 braiding is to look at the view the flow coming towards you away from

211:17 . Now the flow is towards you lo and behold beautiful by directionally down

211:22 bars. There's one here. So the top of the bar, There's

211:27 bar margin and that requires a channel either side with a braid bar in

211:32 middle. There's another one, there's channel, there is the channel and

211:37 the mounted bar in the middle, arrows on the slide. If they

211:41 down, I mean the flows towards , if they point up the flows

211:44 from you, if they put two , it means flows left to the

211:47 , to the right. So in diagram, you see the parents that

211:51 pointing downstream. Okay, so that you can visually visualize the direction of

211:56 with respect to the bedding diagram. so Michael did abetting diagram at how

212:04 surface, lower surface and the upper . And again, based on the

212:11 on the left, uh was was clear that these are braid bars,

212:16 that's interesting because the black hawk at is unequivocally meandering. But here we're

212:23 , much, much more proximal. even though these are isolated channel

212:28 in case the floodplain, which, to Peter Friend in 19 3 would

212:35 them to be meandering. There. brady. Okay, we can just

212:42 the measured sections together when you put together. You can't distinguish the

212:46 the cross beds or the thickness of fills. You can also do some

212:51 bit of math. You know if know that that the thickness of a

212:54 band. You can infer the height the dune that makes it the bed

212:59 . And then you can infer the depth and there's scaling relationships. And

213:06 use those scaling ships to infer that casket rivers were about 2.5 m

213:12 and the Blackhawk rivers were about 2.5 3 m deep. So not a

213:17 difference in the size and depth of of the Blackhawk or the cascade

213:22 Okay, um Here's some of the so that dune height is 5.3 times

213:29 that thickness. Anyway, those are numbers if you want. And then

213:33 empirical formulas, you can calculate channel and all sorts of stuff. And

213:37 we when we start to do some hydraulic calculations based on the political

213:41 we find that the channel depths, wits and and and and and and

213:46 belt wits are pretty similar for both . And the cross bed thicknesses are

213:52 similar as well. So in general conclude that the Blackhawks channels contain unequivocal

214:01 of midstream braid bars. The visit exhibit both downstream and lateral accretion.

214:07 got nice confluence scours. We don't any change in the flow of your

214:11 between the Blackhawk and Castle gate. no difference influential style, negating the

214:16 that the low standards braided and the stand is meandering. All we see

214:20 a change in net to growth much compatible with the basin wide change in

214:27 . The question then becomes why the in price meandering and they're braided

214:34 And it could be that you're just down the distributed system and maybe the

214:38 of the downstream channels is lower. there could be lots of reasons,

214:43 ? So we may be just looking a more, more distributed system in

214:48 price river outcrops and maybe more attributed . Uh in in in in

214:57 the scales of shams look identical. no evidence for smaller channels, substantially

215:02 channels in the casket. The idea river style can predict sequence jump sequence

215:11 is not well borne out by this and maybe this is one study and

215:18 general idea that the plan view, of ancient river systems can be,

215:24 the critical knowledge to distinguish net to or sequence photography is not well borne

215:32 . And to distinguish meandering from bravest . You've got to do very careful

215:36 , architectural work and it's really, almost impossible to do that with well

215:39 . Of course it can be done some seismic datasets. So I would

215:45 that the sequence trickery version two is . I published this paper, I

215:51 this in I forget 2000 something or 2000 I think after I published

215:59 my colleague Sandy Patterson who I went school with. Ah he's been working

216:05 book post photography for 30 years and measured thousands of sections. And so

216:12 puts john van Wagoner's cross section above the sequence to retake tip out and

216:17 his new work on the bottom. boy, does his work ever differ

216:22 john Van Wagner's. So he contrasts Wagner's interpretation on the left with his

216:29 on the right. It's absolutely clear Simon's Patterson's much more careful work with

216:35 of additional sections in between the rather . Now, there's nothing wrong with

216:39 work that that john van waiting for time. But you know, he

216:44 a handful of measured sections based on limited amount of time that he and

216:49 workers had when they worked on this the few years. They were

216:52 Simon Patterson spent 30 years at it students out And simply had 10 times

216:58 data and ultimately showed that Van Wagner's was wrong, that my interpretation was

217:04 correct and and shows the correlation scenarios the bottom. And then just a

217:11 diagram illustrate that there are there are deep channels, but and they do

217:16 through a couple of pair of There's actually very little evidence for sea

217:19 fall in the black hawk. Mhm. Anyway, I promised that

217:27 talk would not take the full Okay, We are at

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