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00:00 Yeah. Hey folks, welcome. of course schedule we were at,

00:24 we're down there of course with the at the first time ever, I'm

00:29 schedule, It only took me 16 to be able to do that.

00:36 So uh next uh next lecture, not long um ketchup day will um

00:51 , like they have some stuff that spill over into that day. Um

00:58 uh you know, I don't anticipate they being on the length, but

01:04 know, may have questions and So uh but any of those ketchup

01:09 , you've seen the schedule, that's of just to give me some cushion

01:13 I go over uh time on some the topics beforehand so that I can

01:17 of use that day to catch up . So um uh then we'll start

01:24 next unit uh to on that So a week from this thursday and

01:33 see that, you know, material up um likely later this week.

01:41 Okay, so the schedule is obviously um blackboard quiz. So blackboard quiz

01:53 week, as you can see it's a little bit different only and

01:59 con uh in the in terms of length, so it's a little more

02:04 . So eun quizzes cover Uh the week's materials, so like this one

02:11 cover basically chapters 1412, Alright, kind of meant to be like a

02:19 I guess somewhat of that unit. there will be questions covering, you

02:26 , not every single topic, but know, some of the big topics

02:29 covered in three just four chapters. it'll be something like 25 something

02:40 Uh 45 minutes or seven length. um a little bit longer. A

02:46 bit more comprehensive than your typical weekly . Okay um uh Smart work.

02:52 smart work. There wasn't nothing was last week but this week there will

02:56 assignments uh 34 do on sunday then couple of days later chapter five.

03:04 just kind of the give you some before the quick exam if you have

03:10 questions about the homework stuff. So be aware of that. And obviously

03:16 a reminder on thursday about this stuff again next week and so on.

03:23 um All right. No they were up chapter four uh before we go

03:32 kind of administrative questions? My Okay. Alright so let's go to

03:40 is really review again the bacterial growth . Okay so we use the term

03:47 culture. Okay so uh in the that would be um like an early

03:57 right? It could be any any . But typically and uh labs around

04:02 is gonna be maybe 100 mils of . Right? So you you prepare

04:07 growth medium uh liquid from a liquid medium here liquid growth medium in a

04:13 vessel, autoclave it and then you oops inoculated. Okay. Inoculated

04:23 What you're gonna do is the only you're doing after that. Once you

04:28 inoculated. Inoculated means the seed if will to provide some cells that are

04:33 be like they're gonna grow. And the so following inoculation, all

04:41 doing after that is taking samples at time intervals in measure and growth and

04:47 can measure growth in different ways. most common way is using a spectrum

04:51 tom occur which I'm sure you've always multiple labs uh measuring turbidity,

04:59 So the culture of growth which it like clear as water but then it

05:04 very cloudy and as it grows more more cells appearing and it was just

05:09 turbidity turbidity color. Okay. And can and that will absorb light so

05:16 see an increase in absorb ints over as growth increases. Okay uh ultimately

05:23 should do are are in addition to can take samples and dilute them

05:29 It's actually what we call viable cell . Okay measurement has uh called

05:35 F. U. S. Colony units per mil. Okay. Um

05:41 way uh the absorbent measurements um of increase over time as the as the

05:48 grows, the bible count gives you of a quantitative value of actual cell

05:54 but that will D. O. . Is the is the parameter for

05:59 optical so you can equate O. . To a actual cell number if

06:06 wanted to. Okay. Um Now of how you measure you're gonna see

06:12 curve like this. Okay, now it will, parts of the curveball

06:17 so you have relied in the beginning phase. Okay, and so that

06:25 uh today knocking them itself, What's the source you're using to inoculate

06:30 medium can be uh obviously the solar , right, Come from a

06:35 Okay. It will come from another culture and you're just uh you're not

06:40 a sample that into batch growth Okay. And so the lag phase

06:48 is, so imagine those cells in Okay, how long have they been

06:54 in there. What kind of medium they growing in that or not?

06:59 . Um at what point did you cells out and then put them into

07:03 next batch? Okay, so Right, so all these things factor

07:08 the length of this lag things, . For the souls coming in relatively

07:13 , is it old culture and not a lot of viable cells, Is

07:17 , is the medium were growing in curriculum very different from what they're going

07:21 ? Okay, what is it? identical. Right. Um what's the

07:27 , what was there? A sample of binoculars? Was it one million

07:31 $10? Okay, so these are factor into the length of this period

07:39 . Okay. And so the, know, what's the micro environment of

07:44 ? You know, it's an item been growing for 24 hours, maybe

07:47 like a ph changes that occurred in now it's going into fresh medium

07:52 you know, a more optimal ph it's gotta be just right, so

07:57 uh acclimates the surroundings, that's what that involves, right? So I'm

08:02 use the surroundings right now, I'm fresh medium in the ph is,

08:07 know, more more suitable, I to kind of get ready to

08:10 Gene expression may be going on Okay. Turning genes on turning genes

08:17 , certainly if it's two different media , it may have to um turn

08:22 certain pathways, turn off certain pathways all takes time. Right? So

08:27 that's all represented in that lag so that faces flat because that's what

08:31 doing, is it's getting ready to , okay, not growing yet.

08:36 so once um all that is set then, boom, it goes and

08:43 grows like crazy of course, or under optimal conditions. Alright, this

08:48 exponential corrupt law of faith, so and then lost. Okay, and

08:56 of course that's going to be the growing a portion of the batch

09:03 And so we sometimes even um differentiate up log phase into talking about mid

09:13 . Okay, And late log. . And so in mid log is

09:21 kind of in this range here. , of course, it's going to

09:26 most the most active cells. lots of cells dividing rapidly. Um

09:35 in, this is often broken down log, it is often times when

09:40 might um take if you're if you're in some kind of activity that they're

09:46 right and enzymatic activity you might get log somewhere where you want to take

09:51 samples to see what's the what's really maximal activity here and it's gonna generally

09:57 in that mid log phase because the are very healthy and growing and most

10:02 . Um And so their size changes occur and the whole uh in the

10:09 stages of growth of the back So um initially in this blog log

10:18 growth lots of cells dividing. So get slightly bigger and then then

10:25 And so so tend to be a bit bigger on average in log things

10:31 that changes the stationary phase. They actually get a little smaller than the

10:36 phase. Okay so um the so a late log. Okay so late

10:44 now is it becomes almost a tipping where it is running out of

10:50 Okay the growth rate begins to slow in late log um you know nutrients

10:58 to sustain that level of cell density that point. So then We get

11:04 go into um stationary phase. So basically death rate is equal to

11:09 three flat flat and this is where becomes a thing of the survival mode

11:20 in. Okay and so what's the gonna do in the state. Um

11:28 if it becomes a little bit smaller size, that's less cytoplasmic material to

11:34 up with it. In fact, a way to conserve energy. Um

11:41 responses may occur, proteins may become . And so we don't want to

11:48 of just slow down growth. you know, express so many

11:52 Kind of slow down proteins. It's remember that takes energy. Okay.

11:56 it really becomes a a survival mode the idea of being okay, I'm

12:02 gonna kind of hang on as best can until uh you know, maybe

12:07 internet will come clomping down and I'll growing again. Okay. But in

12:12 growth, right? Aside from taking samples to measure growth, you're

12:17 doing anything. You're not adding anything doing anything like that. You're just

12:22 Before four phases of growth. So, um and so there's a

12:28 of someone of the same stuff I really touch on his. Why why

12:33 you didn't care about gross? Because you know, if you're in

12:40 mm hmm. Really in lots of fields, you use gross cells for

12:45 purposes. Um biology grow cells to proteins to to isolate D.

12:52 A. For various purposes. Um um in order to get those

12:58 you need quantities of that stuff. . And so you can grow cells

13:03 liquid culture to get a lot of that then get a lot of your

13:07 whatever it may be of interest. . And so um and uh and

13:14 maybe take samples and maybe making an activity in the in those cells.

13:19 you want to take samples at different . You want to know what's the

13:22 time to do that one of the active. So they grow curve is

13:29 is the first basic thing you do then analyze along the different time points

13:35 it's doing Okay. And so maybe on different media and tests at work

13:40 point, it gets to here and . So these are all things you

13:44 . Okay. Maybe figuring out what it likes best. These are all

13:49 you do usually this kind of Okay. Um and that can

13:57 you know, if you're in an lab you're basically working with. It

14:02 a material, right? You go an industrial lab where you're growing those

14:08 for commercial purposes. Um a spoonful stuff doesn't work. You need buckets

14:16 , hundreds of thousands of gallons. , so you grow, grow these

14:20 , you're doing the stages, you out small scale, maybe go from

14:26 leaders to 10,000 m, 200,000, do it in a chain like that

14:33 ? To get uh lots of right? So for commercial purposes,

14:38 what you do. If you biotech in the earth that's what you'll be

14:45 growing up to those kind of Okay, so but it all starts

14:49 the system at the small scale and scaling up. Okay um rambled too

14:55 on that subject. So stationary So according to something you're talking about

15:03 so explore relationships. We're talking about second. That's certainly something that would

15:08 in stationary phase. Okay. In sense that stress occurring, it was

15:16 of forming endospore, it's very likely to begin doing this. Uh Certainly

15:23 um That present forming indoor sports certainly in the stress conditions. Okay.

15:31 Alright. The death phase so Important remember especially in Chapter five, Were

15:39 mostly discussed. How do you how you kill bacteria? Okay and so

15:44 really focused on track five on this of the curl. Okay how fast

15:53 make it die? You know we we add chemicals here okay or whatever

15:59 treatment is, how fast will it ? And so that phase much like

16:05 phase. That phase is also log . Okay it can decrease exponentially just

16:11 log phase can increase actually. Okay that's really what one tries to do

16:16 different types of disinfectant treatments and what you is too get you know very

16:23 water ready. Okay so point being that death? And so certainly there

16:31 there are still some nutrients available to phase. Just very limiting and becoming

16:36 less so as we go on. my death phase beginning you've run out

16:44 there are no nutrients. Okay And quickly Death occurs exponentially. Okay.

16:52 and by that time you know in growth where you haven't really done anything

16:57 than just taking samples um You know ph changes maybe have become very acidic

17:02 basic depending on the media. By point waste materials are accumulating so not

17:09 good situation. Okay. Um now one phenomenon dormancy persistence. This is

17:17 we've seen in uh certain types that generate a resistance to antibiotics. Okay

17:27 cells may um in different responses some types will um not responding by kind

17:35 slowing their growth down. Okay, . The growth. Okay but remain

17:41 . Okay. So you cannot be but still be alive. All

17:45 And they do so by maintaining a potential. No we haven't talked about

17:52 . We'll talk about that unit But the proton pump that talks about

17:57 , that creates a difference in the potential. Okay. That is a

18:01 to provide energy. Okay, so you can kind of maintain that a

18:06 bit of that membrane potential, absolute pump generates some https. It can

18:12 so and by doing that to remain . Right, So it's not really

18:18 demand for energy but nonetheless has to some activity. And that's enough to

18:23 it. Right. And we've seen phenomenon and that can present some types

18:30 bacteria can induce this state. And remember with antibiotics many of these um

18:38 best on fast growing populations. Because that's when the targets for antibiotics

18:44 most plentiful I think of cell wall . Right? One is cell wall

18:50 is going to be occurring like like . Right? During log phase.

18:54 ? So that's when an antibiotic that trigger things like um cell wall

19:00 components of protein synthesis. Right? are the processes that can be very

19:05 when soldiers growing. Um But if slows down then those antibiotics that target

19:12 components don't aren't as effective. And so if a cell can he

19:21 to antibiotics then say okay I'm gonna my growth and you won't be able

19:26 work with me as well. So a way to kind of. And

19:29 the antibiotic um you don't when you taking the exit your system. And

19:38 then that's the opportunity for the per and then I'm gonna start growing

19:42 Right? Cause disease. So they be a problem. Um Now that

19:51 Sanoma is about. Okay. Um questions about that? Yeah, mm

20:00 . Mhm. For some it's not for certain pathogens. We've seen that

20:07 that they can induce this dormancy. hmm. Yeah. In stationary

20:20 Yes. Because it's gonna be a situation and if it can perform in

20:24 portals that would be the time to it. Okay before it gets the

20:28 thing volunteer. Sure. There are types of antibiotics that can they can

20:39 on it. Um It may be like a Yeah, There are two

20:46 of antibiotics that work as as I the analogy of like sticking with strong

20:51 commemorate stuff leaks out. So those of antibiotics don't dependent on growth.

20:57 those are the electric types that you use those types. So um but

21:01 may not it may be something you to figure out by trial and

21:05 Initially that was any other. if you limited volume but still absolute

21:22 of. Okay. Oh, so you have like a one male

21:30 Um So okay, what's the It's able to get enough.

21:43 you still you still get a You still would get broken. It's

21:48 it would be a growth curve that represent a high selling but you will

21:54 get a Yeah, but it would that's not something that's done. Very

22:06 sampling life kind of stuff. But minimum life I've seen for like these

22:12 of like in 50 mils, 50 100 in that range. Um

22:22 Yeah. What is this I'm going get at the same time. I

22:34 I don't think so. So I'm sorry. Ok, I

22:39 Um The the thing with I don't . I don't think that is because

22:46 antibiotics work well together this is what's a synergistic effect. Um Well,

22:52 actually talk about that. Uh There a good example is one that's um

22:59 gosh escapes me out. But yeah have they'll have a better effect together

23:06 separate or by themselves but it's not dormancy but right if I forget mine

23:14 we do talk about that and uh think I want to talk about it

23:17 time. So do you mind about ? Yeah so neither of penicillin or

23:31 because it's likely of those types that do that. Those who may maybe

23:38 . Right? Because those rely on rapid growth rates typically they work

23:42 Yeah. Okay so here's the Um So a bacterial inoculate has grown

23:52 nutrient broth? Okay And Allah Quantas to a batch growth medium. So

23:58 the M9, that's the sea. you see both formulations down there um

24:04 of defined medium, minimal medium following of the batch medium. But what

24:12 the growth pattern most closely resembled? so nutrient broth inoculate into M.

24:18 . Okay so here's the choices. the other piece of information is when

24:25 night is growing nutrient broth and transferred fresh nutrient broth it looks like

24:33 Okay um So what would it look if neutral broth in Oculus going into

24:40 . Nine? You look like B. Or seek. So when

24:49 think about that you just mentioned um medium. So minimal medium is also

24:59 sight of the fact that you, way I think of it is if

25:03 give you a calculator and periodic chart can figure out all the old National

25:06 Adams in there, right. It contain this complex meetings. Um But

25:13 say about your willingness. Um It's have to synthesize all of all of

25:19 constituents. Okay. To synthesize it's me go ask. It's vitamins.

25:29 and that can um produce some different . Okay I want that one this

25:43 . Okay. Timers on. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Here

26:19 go. And it's 5-5 seconds. positive too. Alright hold on.

26:28 we go. 654. Mhm. . Okay. All right. Um

26:39 who answered C. Y. It's longer like why is that?

26:48 Where did it come from? Like . Okay. Yeah that's correct.

26:58 there's less. Um So what What the nutrient broth provide that?

27:04 nine does not anybody. I mean provides C. H. O.

27:11 . P. S. Is the in which they provide some of the

27:14 . H. O. M. . S. Which is because for

27:19 um They had, so any minimum . They just said the soldiers have

27:25 make basically make all their stuff from , so to speak. Okay.

27:30 not preformed material for them. There an accomplice in a complex nutrients like

27:38 you'll have preformed vitamins. Preformed amino and the like and so what that

27:46 is going from a what color rich rich broth or a complex medium.

27:55 where you have all these preformed Okay um and now you're locked into

28:01 middle media where you can hear it scratch that's going to put on the

28:06 in terms of now you gotta not that turn on different pathways right to

28:12 the size of the glass and so and so forth. That that's a

28:16 more time to acclimate now that those . So life life stays is gonna

28:23 . Okay Because that it sells an down in 10 9. I don't

28:27 I'm not getting you know preformed amino . Preformed vitamin is gonna make it

28:31 myself and that's that's time turn expressed make proteins blah blah blah. Okay

28:39 that equates to a longer lag Okay no problem. Yes. Thank

28:47 . But if you went the other around from a memorable and not getting

28:51 media into Richmond and generally lacks, should decrease compared to if we're going

28:58 a minimum immediate. Okay so it's about from the standpoint of the cell

29:05 how much work do I gotta do get going? Bye. So um

29:15 why because my boss set up my job. Think like that back

29:20 Okay. Sounds weird but put yourself the bacteria shoes and in this

29:25 Okay. How long is it gonna me to get going? Yeah so

29:31 many questions. Yeah. Okay so well I'll answer that in the next

29:39 . Okay. Um b equates to . Okay so let's say you have

29:49 just talk about right, you're not anything to your medium other than taking

29:54 eye clinic and taking samples to measure . That's it. Right now.

29:58 could be more rigorous. You could more attentive to the to the flask

30:06 you wanted to um If you want get more sells out of it you

30:13 add stuff to it. It's gonna the thing you want to add.

30:18 we had if we had this growing M9, what would you want to

30:22 to get more sells out of it quick. Any idea If you were

30:32 on M9 And you are growing in M9 medium then you plateau mode.

30:39 now you want to get you I want more cells out of this

30:43 . What would I add on that of ingredients to get that effect

30:50 Right well, M nine has So just add more glucose.

30:54 add uh two more grams of glucose cells will do that. So that's

31:00 we call fed batch growth feed it it. So add more partner.

31:06 um and you know in terms of are you gonna become limiting for?

31:15 because you can do this multiple Keep feeding, feeding at sea it

31:20 that keeps going up. Okay. limitations. Especially if you're just doing

31:25 , shake flask. Okay, um you wanted ph issues that will stop

31:32 cells from growing. Um but it lie to um to to in that

31:40 to crank up, get more, add more carbon. And only do

31:44 just have a sterile, You have sterile um 20% glucose solution,

31:51 And just add, you know, few millimeters of that and it takes

31:56 . Um That's what we call fred , right? Basically, feeding it

32:01 feeding the match. Okay. if you want to be super

32:05 you can actually account for ph changes the class. You could have a

32:10 indicator that will turn color yellowish sugar to an acid register, gets too

32:16 . And you can never anyone there , you know, acid or base

32:18 neutralize it until the, until the color goes more to read or read

32:22 yellow in that range of 6 to . And that was so you could

32:28 done that and put directly, like this crap. Okay, And so

32:32 looking at it right, you can all that stuff, right? And

32:38 will work. You'll get a lot selling out of that shape class.

32:43 uh again, it actually becomes limited one of the things that's why you

32:48 buy reactor. So you see a Bayraktar controls everything controls the pe

32:54 . You see these things over our pumps, okay, that are

33:00 , it's all integrated. All automatically ? Let's say, Okay, add

33:05 base when it gets the ph six that's when it gets to.

33:12 just automatically. Um There's also another parameter. This control, they can

33:17 feed automatically. Okay. And that's you do growth curves initially in the

33:22 class to kind of say, so when this is when it runs

33:25 of with this much carbon upfront, is when it kind of begins to

33:29 it all up and flat. Now go, okay. At that time

33:33 , I need to add more carbon you can program all this stuff into

33:36 reactor. Alright, we'll actually get of cells. Okay. Now the

33:43 is so back to the red So for this for anything food carbon

33:52 , you know, every eight hours 10 hours or whatever? Why?

33:57 do that trouble? Why don't you add it all up front?

34:01 I'm gonna add it all in the . I don't have to come up

34:03 get out in the middle of the and add stuff. Why why couldn't

34:07 do that? Because you actually can't that? It won't work.

34:15 No, it's more of a fake um Think more in terms of

34:22 Mhm. Chemistry taking chemistry terms, ? But why why couldn't you add

34:32 my why can't I put all my upfront. So that medium had two

34:36 per year. Why can't I put g sugar, glucose right off the

34:40 . It won't brother. Why is set that ph which one? What

34:52 you say? Yes, concentrations too to too much site right now.

34:59 mostly won't won't go 20% glucose. put that in right at the

35:05 Um Yeah it's gonna be an issue to high solute concentrations as most of

35:10 issues. Right? So they actually grow. Okay that's what I can

35:14 it piecemeal. Okay. Um if bacteria growing in liquid culture is adequately

35:22 throughout. Okay. So you add carbon when you when you when you

35:27 what can limit growth fairly quickly. you control this physical parameters. There's

35:33 keyword sense. That's the clue. auction become limited very quickly. So

35:43 a shake flasks. How could you can actually kind of stave off that

35:54 of oxygen for a bit. And would you do that? She had

36:01 or flask? Yes, that's Okay. What if uh So in

36:12 flask didn't become limited for monster pretty . But what can you do to

36:19 that to kind of increase until you limited for that? What could you

36:27 ? What not? He said I like that. No that's one

36:36 But these are way is putting the . You always broke when we were

36:42 bugs uh bugs bacteria in shake flasks always have in the shaker. You

36:48 crank up the RPMs and that will more, that's how you get air

36:52 there and creates turbulence. Okay. We have pictures. Yeah. So

36:58 you look at the shake flask what's that? You see that you

37:03 you're used to the typical urban Meyer you see in chemistry lab which has

37:07 flat bottom, right? You see this has these affordable, affordable ridges

37:14 . That's what we call baffles, shaped flags. Okay, so when

37:20 is shaking those battles creates even more . Okay, so you can actually

37:26 shake flats like that with the shake with a flat bottom at the same

37:31 and you'll get more growth in the flat because you create more turbulence.

37:35 mixing of air in there. Of it is. So you're growing aerobic

37:41 that they're gonna like that. Um Yeah the the the other thing

37:47 with bioreactor is I mean I'm giving more information I need to know but

37:52 can learn this stuff in the Okay? So for those of you

37:55 go on to do this kind of um you'll know so with bioreactors again

38:02 controlling everything. Okay. And you , auction limitation is one of the

38:07 things. And so you see that impeller is the name for this uh

38:15 all the way through. And you these blades on it, right?

38:18 this is going to be rapidly And you see that there is an

38:23 probe. Okay, That will measure level of dissolved oxygen in your

38:27 Right? And so that's it. it can be controlled so that can

38:32 controlled to increase the speed of the to get more music. Right?

38:38 also have what's called a sparkler down and it's however, is forced into

38:45 system. Um And as part of tiny little holes in it.

38:50 So, it creates small bubbles. bubbles dissolved better than big bubbles.

38:57 right, create small air bubbles. the option can mix more quickly into

39:03 liquid rather than for big bubbles. , So, uh that But this

39:09 can can you see here is um , to ask base control nutrient

39:21 Um Anti forms Another thing. Uh need lots of the aeration and some

39:27 the end product they got lots of well. Um The other thing here

39:35 this right here cooling jacket. Um If you didn't have that,

39:42 also would bring your capacity here I guess re controlling everything,

39:50 This is gonna be super happy. ? At ph control? They've got

39:56 control. They get they get more they need it and they're gonna be

40:00 so happy. Right? And you that happens in the levels of soldier

40:05 . Okay. But you didn't have from the water um jacket around

40:11 right? Thermodynamics, Right? Those are growing so fast and so much

40:17 incredible. Okay? And so that need that cold water jacket to keep

40:22 , keep them happy there because the of heat they're producing his roof and

40:29 so you have to have that water to keep continually cooling it down,

40:33 that back. So uh but yeah you get uh you know and this

40:40 how these things operate from one liter up to 100,000 m size.

40:47 Of course bigger scale and the limiting really on the size of how bigger

40:53 it can be. Um Is really the motor. Okay. And the

41:00 to drive the same. Okay. turned out to be the thing that

41:06 you in terms of economics and it boils down to money. Alright.

41:10 gotta you can't you gotta make sure high chromium isn't costing more than what

41:14 is to actually run the unit. uh I can attest to that have

41:18 laid out five times in the industry the company so not because of

41:23 I don't think. But um anyway any questions? Okay. Yeah.

41:40 . Okay. So what what stage you know what the bacteria in and

41:43 to add stuff? Great question. you're always gonna monitor, you always

41:47 take samples even if you have something a bazillion gallons, you're still gonna

41:52 samples but that's because you will want know that um the you know when

41:59 do this for a long time, can kind of see you can look

42:03 you can see the parameters of the or the ph is really kicking in

42:09 my my acid basically is really kicking now when my my D.

42:13 Is causing the thing that really go can give you a clue that yeah

42:16 guys are doing pretty well but you take samples and put them in perspective

42:22 and you get a growth curve for . Yeah all the time. So

42:26 curve isn't just for for this Okay. It's for every scale that

42:32 were doing to monitor what's going on . Yeah Russian is it difficult?

42:44 can be it um That's why you're careful. That's why you know the

42:49 you're allowed and accepted technique is really . And uh obviously you sterilize everything

42:55 everything that goes into the tank will you know sterile equipment. So it's

43:00 not impossible. It's not an impossible you just have to be careful

43:04 And so it's uh you know I didn't work but from we called fermenters

43:12 it's part of the right term. I didn't want protects that big.

43:15 worked with maybe up to 1000 leaders I wasn't that common to have contamination

43:23 . So if you're careful about It's certainly absolutely doable. It could

43:26 more of a problem with tissue culture culture versus bacterial cells tissue coach tend

43:35 be more finicky more. They More rich types of medium? More

43:39 types of medium can invite more chances contamination because lots of stuff can grow

43:43 it versus the minimum media. So gonna be some more issues with tissue

43:48 than bacterial cultures. But again, is this is an all day all

43:52 time. So you just have to careful what are you doing in addition

43:56 that? Yeah, bottom. Um All right. So let's look

44:03 little bit about growth. And so terms of dynamics of growth more.

44:08 this kind of growth calculations. So we're well aware of having to

44:14 at the batch growth curve that is exponentially. And when they say is

44:20 . Really the terms of use See there's a lot of rhythmic

44:23 exponential growth, right? They they used to anonymously to indicate obviously really

44:29 growth. Okay. And so a way to to measure cell numbers.

44:36 the this equation here. Okay. what are we what are what are

44:41 starting with? Zero? What's our of cells that we start with?

44:46 where do we get to at some in the future? Okay. We

44:50 calculate that by basically multiplying what we with by this to the end and

44:56 the number of generations. Okay. that value? Okay. So um

45:03 you start out with one cell. . And In uh five generations.

45:12 to through the fifth times two to fifth we go five generations. What

45:18 we? How many cells do we ? Well, we have 32

45:22 Right. So um now it's not so easy to calculate. And just

45:29 by itself, you know, as get more and more numbers um higher

45:34 . So we tend to use um can we convert that equation so we

45:40 solve for n different generations will show that in a second. So um

45:45 other thing is when you're talking about increases in numbers, like we're going

45:50 one in this example one to a . And for Ireland e coli can

45:56 like eight hours, six hours, hours under optimal conditions that um that

46:04 wide. So typically put it in log based tents to kind of compress

46:08 scale much like ph right, ph vary Hydrogen Ion concentration can vary from

46:15 range. So we put that also the log base 10. So when

46:18 have Values that can occur in a range rather quickly, we kind of

46:24 that using a lot of base Um So generation time. So that's

46:32 primary views all the time in growth growth. So here you see one

46:37 occurring generation time obviously is. How does it take to get there?

46:42 . There's different ways that that's you know, one basic way as

46:45 . The time it takes for one to make two. Right. Well

46:48 don't really measure it that way in real world. Typically measure what's the

46:54 for the population to double. So measure it at a certain point.

47:00 then when when the I wanted to for that population to double from that

47:04 . And that's also considered generation time well. Okay so um so doubling

47:10 , generation time. I mean the thing. Okay And so um the

47:17 of the generation time. So it you know it can you can have

47:23 generations time when you grow up on media. So you have the same

47:27 species growing on different media. It certainly have can certainly have different generation

47:32 . Especially if it's mineral media complex . That can certainly change it.

47:37 . Um So just to kind of mentioned um thinking that equation and then

47:45 that to basically solve for n to that an easy thing to do.

47:50 basically multiply through. And I put in there. You don't need to

47:54 how how the things derived. But it is it's not complicated at

47:58 . So what we're doing is basically through by log base 10.

48:03 And then um that's what we see . Okay just taking that equation and

48:10 through by log base 10. Okay we get to hear so log to

48:16 base 10 times to the end equals . Right? N times log base

48:22 . And to just how do you with logs? Okay and then this

48:29 equals that. Block to the base of two is .301. Right so

48:34 think that as that power of two right? That we see in this

48:38 growth. Um So then after this it's just solve for M. Alright

48:45 we divide through by .301 right? this can be expressed in that

48:52 So against how how logs work. ? So log base 10 of N

48:58 minus log base 10 of 10 It's the same as saying log base

49:03 of N. T. O grande . Check so so that equation Okay

49:10 what is what we use typically for solving problems? Okay and so we

49:17 express this as well. Time is of interest. Okay so generations.

49:24 gives us number generation. But what the time? Right. And so

49:28 we call the growth rate constant Is basically just that equation with time

49:34 now as part of the equation right . Okay so in over t.

49:42 and that equates to generations over time generation time is the inverse. Is

49:49 ? Okay? So g just time generations. Typically since bacteria grows so

49:56 it's typically in minutes it can be hour but it's very common to see

50:02 . See that term in minutes. and so we'll go through a couple

50:08 problems there's more practice problems with, them work out. I mean,

50:13 the exams, exams really full of things, It was like maybe two

50:17 on the exam. Um uh There also be one on the blackboard

50:23 a couple on the blackboard quiz. But I think if we go through

50:27 um with the examples that are on um uh it's all it's just a

50:34 of setting it up and what are solving for? So let's let's look

50:38 just a couple of problems here. . Uh and this is not a

50:43 bacterial species in case you're wondering. . Uh so this bacterium, houstonians

50:51 has a generation time of 40 Starting with five cells in log

50:58 How many minutes does it take to ? About 10,000 cells. Assume all

51:03 remain viable. Okay. Um So just think about it. So

51:10 these kinds of problems you will have you'll you'll you'll be allowed to have

51:15 calculator, don't care what kind in in casa. They'll be aware of

51:21 that you will be allowed to have calculator. Just don't bring a cellphone

51:25 kind of handheld capitalist one. And I said, there's only a couple

51:30 problems uh on the test that the will be there for. You don't

51:36 to memorize the equation. Thank Oh, sorry about that.

51:52 So if you're not, if you're sure about the answer here. It's

51:56 . Don't Well through it. I I want you to think, you

52:01 it worked out it's gonna be pretty . Mm hmm. Okay, get

52:37 timer going. Mhm, mm Uh Hold on. Yeah, it's

52:47 question now. No. Okay. any kind of calculators? Fun.

52:58 not a cellphone calculator. Okay. . Here we go. You're not

53:10 . Just answer anything. Okay, little bit around the map. Let's

53:15 what we come up with here. right, so the way I do

53:18 things is um Alright. So what trying to do is what R

53:24 Zero N. T. Values, ? So we're starting with five Going

53:29 10,000. The question mark is how does it take to get there?

53:34 , Generation time is Minister generation and given that right? And so we

53:42 Catholic number of generations produced and going 5-10,000 cells and multiply this value by

53:49 time to yield minutes. Okay, we figure out the number of generations

53:55 we should be able to plug in figure out the answer. Okay,

54:02 there's our equation plug in N. . And N. Zero.

54:06 10,000 cells to five and then 5000 five, sorry? Um and then

54:13 get that over 50.301 The 11 And so it should be 40 times

54:22 , minutes, which is a little seven hours. Yeah, I think

54:28 was it was D.A. over seven . Yeah. All right so again

54:39 kind of set up the yeah you the values you know plug them

54:46 Okay. Um let's look at another , calculate the generation time If 900

55:00 cells growing 15 hours produced three million cells. Okay. So you know

55:15 . T. And N. You know the time element 15

55:23 Yeah. So again it becomes down figuring out a number of generations and

55:28 it in. Oh I'm sorry. me open the pool again. Okay

56:08 hmm. Yeah. Okay timer's going hmm. Okay and the strategy,

57:27 not sure. Just punch something Okay. 210. Sure. Alright

57:43 again dot process. Okay. There's 15 hours, 19 minutes. So

57:53 . Zero N. T. We those plug him in. Sure.

58:01 that many generations. Okay so that generations to go from 900 to 3

58:05 million Then uh this generation time Right? So our time is that

58:13 occurs over 900 minutes. Okay. is 76 b. Try um A

58:25 about this one of the previous So look ah I had those material

58:31 problems. It was like five. the first page. The answers are

58:36 the second page. So you can it yourself if you choose not to

58:38 the answers but your answers are all out just like this. So so

58:46 it's just, you know, always do this part here, even though

58:49 may seem very basic, you just but the parameters you're given,

58:55 plug them in where they fit and , you know, just work it

59:02 . It should be not too Okay, um you know, these

59:09 of things you do under one like maybe say you're looking at what's

59:14 effect of antiseptic disinfectant or something, you might go, okay,

59:19 I get it. You might see , you get quantitative differences. So

59:24 gives you just data to kind of what you may be seeing. So

59:30 there's different context to be used in data. Okay. Um Alright,

59:37 let's look at this question. so this is a nutrient driven phenomenon

59:48 by a lack or depletion of nutrients there's lots of stuff we'll learn this

59:55 where that produces the different phenomena lack of or abundance of sequence.

60:07 but lack of can cause this. a lack or depletion. So I

60:46 this could happen during stationary phase. certainly a depletion of nutrients.

61:09 Okay, Countdown 3, 2. hmm. Yeah, it would be

61:18 those poor formation. Yeah, so one trigger for it. Okay,

61:27 Any kind of stress, uh temperature, radiation depletion of nutrients,

61:35 chemicals etcetera can induce in those four . Um what about this 1?

61:45 , a surface and ability to Our absolute requirements. Four.

61:55 it's not in those four formation. . Okay. Camp down 321

62:43 Okay, biofilm formation correct? So will be our first biofilms. Didn't

62:52 those boars. Okay, so uh couple of things. So as mentioned

62:58 question surfaces. It's all about Okay. Um and two it's all

63:07 lots of girls. Lots of Okay. And so going clockwise from

63:16 one here. Okay. Where we just a cluster of cells, what

63:20 call might call a micro colony. . Not yet visible to make it

63:25 um very quickly becomes an aggregation of and millions of cells that are on

63:34 surface in two dimensions. But then um emerges up off the surface in

63:42 what's called a biofilm tower. Right three dimensions. Okay. As you

63:47 see, certainly beginning here and then here like mountains just rising above right

63:55 of cells, so to speak. And that in itself here here creates

64:02 can create different different micro environments in film. Okay. Some cells are

64:08 interior than exterior. Maybe perhaps create properties in those cells. Okay.

64:16 They are um from a medical standpoint are becoming or have been for a

64:23 time a very uh problematic if not situations. Uh They're very persistent biofilm

64:30 be very persistent. Um But one the hallmarks mobile film is it sticks

64:36 stuff that sticks to services. Okay things from a medical standpoint, things

64:42 catheters that are inserted. Um medical , hip replacements, um these heart

64:51 , he's all for it surfaces upon potential biofilm formers can attach. And

64:58 disease um teeth right then that's obviously than being gross. It's it's uh

65:08 that yellow standards that actually colored it enhance the biofilm itself. But you

65:13 that sticky feeling in your mouth is a biofilm. Okay. Um and

65:19 you think of uh you know bacteria your mouth right there? There's all

65:22 of fermentation going on in their production saccharin material that serves the kind of

65:35 the uh And so stay at the here with sugar snake. That is

65:45 some a I've encountered in convenience stores fast food restaurants where we have a

65:55 can go get your drink from a fountain dispenser, right? Um You

66:00 their lines going to it right from canister of the syrup and then the

66:05 to thingy. Right? And so they go through the lines to the

66:11 the dispenser um they can become clogged to this material. This in particular

66:17 one that actually produces material from the that are in the line and creates

66:25 document called sugar snap. Right? um what happens is of course it

66:31 up with spencer. And for the of the place the problem becomes when

66:38 , people don't really care much about but when it starts to smell then

66:43 care. Alright so that's um so have to come in and get rid

66:47 this stuff. My life wait for . Yeah but it is fire.

66:54 now what? But don't get the bio sam was just a random uh

67:03 blob of all kinds of different Okay because it's not that at all

67:09 actually very orchestrated, phenomenal. Okay is species specific. Okay um And

67:19 of the factors that's most important. of the more important ones, the

67:24 former is the the presence of february in that by also informative. To

67:33 knowledge there's always not fire somewhere but my knowledge most not all bios reformers

67:39 that. They have to figure I pillai because it tackled to the surface

67:44 an important thing. Okay. And what facilitates that. Um So it's

67:50 process that forming a biofilm. And of course the way all cells

67:57 two different chemicals. Right? So are involved in the production of the

68:02 . Okay so we have these stages initiation attachments, maturation maintenance, dissolution

68:12 . So let's um let's just vote the diagram. Okay so we have

68:19 call plank tonic versus uh sticker Celso versus stickers. Stickers. The

68:28 So swimmers are the ones that are of the scouts if you will reconnaissance

68:35 for environment favorable to land on um environment. So we have to get

68:43 driving force for this is abundance not of but abundance of nutrients.

68:51 Or at least a steady supply of because remember this thing's gonna blow up

68:56 the Brazilian cells and that's happening then they've been supplied. This is certainly

69:02 it's the opposite of nutrient deprivation. , this is a new trick.

69:07 okay. And so and many of Yeah phenomenon, balding A that um

69:21 the product of lots of cells. this corn sensing mechanism? This is

69:29 in different context. We're going to this again actually in uh cells that

69:35 I think they do. That sensing also a part of that for some

69:39 . Okay. Because this like that also a cell density dependent thing that

69:45 have enough cells present. Alright. those of you guys have worked in

69:51 . All right, in a quorum do your thing. Right, So

69:56 maybe five people so you have to at least a minimum to be able

69:59 get anything done right, staying So how do they do sales since

70:08 ? They're giving up. Alright. a threshold level of those capitals which

70:13 only happen. Ideas. Okay, that's what the form sensing thing

70:18 It's about cell density. That's Right, Because there's enough cells and

70:24 is enough chemicals that have come together induce this laughter information. Right?

70:32 electronics sells right will become stickers, to speak, Okay, actually lose

70:38 to gel. Okay. And now the surface, so surfaces in Portland's

70:45 horizons and service. And so micro formed their um and they can have

70:53 twitching motel. Alright, remember that's surface dependent pillai on the surface.

71:01 . And so the Canada twitching motility on here. And so micro

71:05 these are colleagues but not yet Looking at. That's um Again,

71:12 signals coming up. Right. So this point is where the biofilm either

71:19 produced or not. Okay, the or nothing. And so it's all

71:24 getting of chemical signals which depends on themselves to the surface presumably if you

71:31 threshold is because this surface can sustain . Okay. And can sustain more

71:39 . Right? So presumably it's a environment which will that lead to this

71:46 , actual policy saccharine formation. So is this is the glue that holds

71:50 together, so to speak. So it's obviously material can be a

71:55 of material um it's a june career . Okay. Uh the whole biased

72:06 is in june okay. Um and again, important things for grad a

72:14 reaching a threshold forms sensing the production extra polish sakura. So when you

72:21 a threshold level then you get expression the genes for this production. Okay

72:28 you go from two dimensional growth on surface to three. Now we're really

72:35 in terms of in fact it's very to see this and that in pipes

72:40 well, pipes problems your surface. ? And a pipe generally has liquid

72:45 and the liquid generally has nutrients. it's like it's continuously fed. Yeah

72:51 you want to say about the film walk out that door and it was

72:56 there. There was on that as come out of SnR 1211 stairs and

73:04 look outside and there's like a bored there second green stuff on the bottom

73:08 liquid. Um And so it without you can get lots of growth

73:18 Now what happens is you create these environments where cells on the surface,

73:25 . Versus sells more interior. There's difference is there? Right. So

73:31 in terms of nutrients and so you to create holds right at the towers

73:36 kind of makes through material flows through around everybody gets bad. Right?

73:42 in terms of the aspect of saying , worry if this were a

73:47 Okay, the pathogen bacterial after. . Well that could be an issue

73:55 well because these they can be hard penetrate. Yes maybe the ones on

74:00 surface are more susceptible but those in interior not so much that they can

74:05 resistant. Okay, that's the thing these medically important biofilms, they're harder

74:11 win. And so very often these what we call the hospital acquired infections

74:19 get in the hospital you don't you you don't get to go to the

74:24 result of having a biofilm infection. you acquire it while in the hospital

74:29 you're getting something else done like your scope or something. And then in

74:33 process of using those medical devices these are introduced and they grew up right

74:39 so they're already grip and they can in some cases baby. Okay um

74:45 staph infection 10 10 many of those of so um anyway so bottom line

74:55 the biofilm uh surface surface attachments. things like uh the quorum sensing being

75:04 celebrated and then use the process um apply satellite information and doing world America

75:10 growth in three dimensions. Now now nutrients do become an issue and not

75:18 then yeah the Canon is off right . The sticker self becomes swimmers again

75:24 find another character. Right? She by itself. Okay so um did

75:35 actually the first thing thursday we'll finish legal sports and they go with the

75:40 . Thanks books.

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